Vader Vs. Dr. Doom

Originally posted by Beyonder
Where'd you get this that Vader is more powerful than Yoda? Do you know who Warlock or Kang the Conquerer is?

Please, Doom connects with one punch and Vader would be K.O.ed. What's Vader's strength? Doom can take shots from Thing.

And no, I wouldn't say force lightning is much compared to Doom's gauntlet blast. Warlock or Kang can take Force Lightning and keep coming.

Your kiddin',.... right. First of all, beyonder,.. Vader was born of the Force. He has more potency of the Force and more of Force in him more than any other being in the History of the Galaxy, and yes, including Yoda.

I do know Warlock and Kang. But we're digressing from the topic here.

2ndly, Dr. Doom would not, cannot get close enough to touch him as if Vader would just stand there. He would quickly whirl his Saber like a pinwheel chopping off Dr. Dooms hand if Doom even attempted so.

And as for Thing, anyone can take a hit from that rockpile. Thing is the biggest, weakest being in Marvel.

3rdly,...beyonder..If little Yoda lift an X-wing out a swamp, then Vader, which has more of the Force in him, thats why he's the chosen one, can deflect any gauntlet shot. It may take both his hands but it'll be enough to repel any blast Dr. Doom luckily lets off.

And how fast does that force choke work? Doom points his gauntlet towards Vader and blast him to pieces. Doom mindswitches with Vader and Doom would win. He's escape from death with this before.

Originally posted by Beyonder
And how fast does that force choke work? Doom points his gauntlet towards Vader and blast him to pieces. Doom mindswitches with Vader and Doom would win. He's escape from death with this before.

Originally posted by Beyonder
And how fast does that force choke work? Doom points his gauntlet towards Vader and blast him to pieces. Doom mindswitches with Vader and Doom would win. He's escape from death with this before.

Force choke work on the exact point he needs it. It does not need much concentration.

Vader has escaped Death as well.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
First of all, Sir Alpha Centauri, this may as well be a Doom FanClub with the way the Doom lovers pound away at people who favor Vader more in this fight.

No not at all. I don't "love" Doom. He's one of my favourite villains. I'm sure I can say the same for everyone else.

Secondly, pounding away at people for not favouring Vader? You threw a tantrum when I posted that Vader would lose. So as far as reactions go, you're bringing in the gold medal. Drop the pathetic insults, I'm pretty sure you don't need them do you?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
2nd, when you say "none of us are going around the forum claiming that he's done things he hasn't done." you really are by saying he'll do Vader in. That hasn't been done by Doom. And if the chance arose Doom would even have a chance but I digress.

I'm saying he would, I'm not saying he has. Desperate much? I believe he would, you obviously have a huge problem with that. If you think Vader would win, no matter how silly I think that is, you have a right to think that. It's time you recognised that more people favour Doom than Vader in this fight, for good reason. Whether you agree or not doesn't matter.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
3rd, when you say "We state our opinions and use fact to back up those opinions." you confuse the pooper out of me. You either have a fact or an opinion, Doomboy not both. Impossible.

It's impossible to have fact and opinion? Wow, I gave you too much credit. If your OPINION is that George Bush is a lame president, you can use facts to back it up, Vaderboy.

Chill out, it's just a debate.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
4th, it was prophesied for Vader to fall to his son so he could redeem himself so that Vader can end the Sith influence. Vader would kill Luke.

WOULD? I said Doom WOULD beat Vader and you started having seizures. Stop being a hypocrite. The FACT is, they fought and Vader lost to Luke, for whatever reason. It happened. Stop latching onto ridiculous points. You can't tell me that I can't say Doom WOULD win and then go and say that Vader WOULD win. It's hypocricy.

The point is, in that fight, he got battered.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
5th, you came up with this whole scenario pigeon crap. If you thought it as not fact good, cause it is fiction cause its a comic book forum with imaginary false characters. no factual anything. dont have a heart attack

Ooooh, did I hit a nerve? You obviously have no clue what fact and opinion are. I never came up with scenarios, I don't sit here scripting out fights in a way I want. You sat there saying "Doom would do this but Vader would do this". Anyone can do that. Then you tried claiming it was a factual scenario, which it can't be because it hasn't happened.

Make sure you turn up to school, it helps.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
And you definitely showed your Dr. Doom Super Fanboyhood when you called Vader a loser. He is the 2nd most power fullest man in the galaxy. "Loser?" Either you've never watched Star Wars or your just being biased, as you called me. You also called me a hypocrite, and Vader lame? No, cheap shots like that, aimed at me are lame.

And 6, relax. its only a forum. a thread. dont worry. calm down dude.

Loser is the opposite of winner. If he's not winning, he's? Yes, losing. I didn't call him a loser in the derogative sense.

2nd most powerfullest? You mean 2nd most powerFUL. Jeez, and no he isn't. In the Star Wars world maybe. Not in the Marvel Universe.

Why are you taking this so personal? When Vader said "I am your father" he wasn't speaking to you. I'm not insulting you. Chill out. Why are you taking it so serious that I called Vader lame? Can we say fanboy reactions?

Anyway, tell me why you think Vader would win. I'm dying to hear this.

-AC

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Your kiddin',.... right. First of all, beyonder,.. Vader was born of the Force. He has more potency of the Force and more of Force in him more than any other being in the History of the Galaxy, and yes, including Yoda.

I do know Warlock and Kang. But we're digressing from the topic here.

2ndly, Dr. Doom would not, cannot get close enough to touch him as if Vader would just stand there. He would quickly whirl his Saber like a pinwheel chopping off Dr. Dooms hand if Doom even attempted so.

And as for Thing, anyone can take a hit from that rockpile. Thing is the biggest, weakest being in Marvel.

3rdly,...beyonder..If little Yoda lift an X-wing out a swamp, then Vader, which has more of the Force in him, thats why he's the chosen one, can deflect any gauntlet shot. It may take both his hands but it'll be enough to repel any blast Dr. Doom luckily lets off.

Just cause he was the chosen one doesn't mean he's better at the Force than Yoda. He ain't that knowledgable, misguided enough for the Emperor to take advantage of. And just cause he's the chosen one, that means he has more of the Force in him than Yoda? And even if he did, you think he'd match up to Yoda's experience of using the Force? Having more power doesn't mean you have more experience to use and control that power.

Cannot? Doom's personal force field would block that saber. Phantom Menance should this; force field > lightsaber.

Oh please, your still assuming Vader is greater than Yoda. Truth is, he has even shown or probably will ever shown the ability to use force lightning. Blocking Doom's attack is b.s. Doom's armor is nuclear powered, he can diss out more than Vader can take. He pulls out sonics Vader ain't blocking that.

Has anyone yet given a plausible reason as to how Vader would win?

The only thing Vader ever did is force choke random cannon fodder who where a) not moving and b) had no intention of trying to stop him... oh and he threw little some bits of rumble at look when he was a good 5-10 feet away from him. How does any of that help him? Even if he could do in the middle of a fight (which he can't because he needs to be standing still and consintrating) it still wouldn't be enough to scratch Doom's armor.

Exactly.

There are no bigger fanboys than Star Wars fanboys.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Exactly.

There are no bigger fanboys than Star Wars fanboys.

-AC

some of the comic fanboys i've seen around here make Star Wars fanboys look like Star Wars cynics

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Exactly.

There are no bigger fanboys than Star Wars fanboys.

-AC

God... I sure hope not. I dont even understand how someone could watch the movies and pull the crap Star Wars fanboys argue with out of the air; it's like they read some twist Star Wars fan fiction and said "yeah, that should have been like that in the movies!"

EDIT: I just remembered that someguy thought Wolverine could beat Lobo in a fair fight...

CAN you have a fair fight with Lobo?

Alpha, I just erased a page-full detailed reply for you by unfortunately and accidentally pressing the back button in order to examine more of your earlier quotes as well and in the process, erased it all. Lucky. It also included a No-BS scenario you requested that I just wont rewrite again due to its length. It had links and everything. I know that I'm outnumbered here in this post, and with that I will still say that Darth Vader would defeat Dr. Doom and also, may the force be with you.

yeah.......................... i did that too...............*cough*............ *looks around and whistles*...........whistling

Outnumbered is nothing.

I've been outnumbered and come out winning multiple times. You're lacking substance, rationale and consistancy.

Not my problem. You stepped to me, I systematically removed you.

-AC

Maybe Doom will dissentegrate him with his "ulimited arsenal" . Or Maybe Doom can steal the force from him and use it against Vader. Or maybe Doom can have a Doombot kill Vader for him. Or maybe one punch from Doom would kill Vader. Or maybe Doom can switch minds with Vader and let him kill himself. Or maybe Doom can blast him with the "unlimited Arsenal". Or maybe Doom can.................................

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Exactly.

There are no bigger fanboys than Star Wars fanboys.

-AC

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Has anyone yet given a plausible reason as to how Vader would win?

The only thing Vader ever did is force choke random cannon fodder who where a) not moving and b) had no intention of trying to stop him...

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Outnumbered is nothing.

I've been outnumbered and come out winning multiple times. You're lacking substance, rationale and consistancy.

Not my problem. You stepped to me, I systematically removed you.

-AC

The first guy didn't need to stop Vader from choking him... someone else did it for him

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I Never said it was your problem and you havent removed s*** systematically, dude cause im still here. I'd stepped to you, and I your weren't such a cheap shot I would've kept stepping to you. You just got saved cause my material was gone. You dodged a bullet. Had you've read what I wrote down as a reply/scenario for you wouldn't of said that I am lacking substance, rationale and consistancy. You got this one by luck. You were about to get it put on you. So bash all you want and bask.

I didn't get saved. What's up? Do you have the memory span of a goldfish or something? I'm sure you can remember what you typed.

Bring it. I didn't DODGE anything. You unloaded the gun and ran away.

I'm painting a target, take a shot. Or are you firing blanks?

You're all talk, nothing to say.

-AC