Vader Vs. Dr. Doom

If You Do Know As Much As You Say About Lucas Imaginary Universe... Your Constant Doomism Can Then Be Chalked Up To An Infinite Love Of Doom... Thats OK Though... Everyone Loves Their Character And Wants To See Them Win... Thats Totally Understandable... But Saying Things Like Lightsabers And Force Wont Work On Doom Just Cause You Say So (Theres No Precedent On This) And That Force Control Is Equal To A Low Level Telepathy In Marvel Say Otherwise...

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Way too close to call?

If by close you mean, easy then yes. I agree.

I know more about the Star Wars universe than most of the people voting for Vader, hence why I know he'd lose.

-AC

Your arrogance is laughable. How can you make such a claim? You either think very highly of yourself, very little of others or both.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Your arrogance is laughable. How can you make such a claim? You either think very highly of yourself, very little of others or both.

lol. I'd say both.

Being a defying pompus/ faux genius is his trait I guess.

I wonder if Yoda could take Doom?...................but thats another strory.

Originally posted by BootlegBoys420
Hey... To The People Screaming Vader Doesnt Stand A Chance... Do You Genuinely Know Anything About The Star Wars Universe? Have You Seen Anything Other Than The Movies? Read A Book? Watch A Cartoon? Go To Star Wars.com? Anything? Doesnt Seem Like It... Seems Like Straight Assumptions From Over Here... Like I Said Before... This One Is Way To Close To Call... Regardless Of What The "Doom Owns" Crew Insists... And Im One Of Those People That Thinks Dooom Can Beat Just About Anyone...

The movies, the comics, the books, the games and the cartoon show all have thier own seperate continuity budy. You can't pick and chose points from what ever series figths your needs at the moment. Seriously its like bringing up Ultimate X-men or X-men TAS in matters concerning the comic team. The Clone Wars Cartoon Jedi are the most impressive (excluding EU Books I'm told) but even they don't have feats that would allow them to compeat with Doom

Right, but given that this is a comic board, the feats should be limited to the comics. That means all the movie feats that didn't happen in the comics are out. And that means the more impressive feats are in.

Even the comics Jedi lose to the average street leveler IMO. I remember Luke doing some really badass stuff in the earlier Dark Horse Comics but overall the comics Jedi aren't so impressive (even at their highest) that they be put on the same level as Doom.

I have no opinion...never read any of the SW comics.

It would help if the SW supporters gave situations where Jedi have penetrated forcefields or deflected high level energy attacks. Doom lives and dies by his forcefield in most debates.

the force flows through everything........ even Doom's forcefield....... Vader was able to communicate with Luke through the Death Star's forcefield

Does Vader being able to force choke that jabroni just by seeing him though a computer screen count? They were even on different Star Destroyers.

Originally posted by Scoobless
the force flows through everything........ even Doom's forcefield....... Vader was able to communicate with Luke through the Death Star's forcefield

Well, given that it's a fight between two different universes with two different rules, you have to be all inclusive here. Unless the thread starter wants to state where this fight takes place.

Well if that is the case then Dr. Doom is doomed imo.

For the heck of it, I'm going to side with Vader, here. He needs some support. The Force is all-encompassing - either it works or it doesn't. If Vader was able to communicate via the Force across the galaxy, that's pretty high level telepathy. He was also able to communicate through forcefields, which means the the force penetrates forcefields. If you can use the force to communicate through forcefields, you can use it to affect people through forcefields. So Vader could rip off Doom's armor and disable his weapons system entirely. Doom's tech, advanced as it is, is AT MOST on par with Empire tech. Nothing Vader hasn't seen before. And he's pretty mechnically inclined too, you know.

Originally posted by demigawd
For the heck of it, I'm going to side with Vader, here. He needs some support. The Force is all-encompassing - either it works or it doesn't. If Vader was able to communicate via the Force across the galaxy, that's pretty high level telepathy. He was also able to communicate through forcefields, which means the the force penetrates forcefields. If you can use the force to communicate through forcefields, you can use it to affect people through forcefields. So Vader could rip off Doom's armor and disable his weapons system entirely. Doom's tech, advanced as it is, is AT MOST on par with Empire tech. Nothing Vader hasn't seen before. And he's pretty mechnically inclined too, you know.

Excellently put, Deigawd.

Have you seen the cartoons

Yes i have, and i have to admit the cartoon jedi are quite impressive but when EIGHT jedi get owned by a cyborg with some fancy lightsaber moves you have to wonder how 'powerful' the force honestly is

Well, that's not exactly fair. It was pretty clear that Ultron was second in power only to Galactus in Secret Wars among the villains. Even Doom recognized this. So there's no shame in being less powerful than some kind of superbot.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Your arrogance is laughable. How can you make such a claim? You either think very highly of yourself, very little of others or both.

Because Fist of the North is displaying the most "info" if you can call it that.

Yet he openly admits I know more than he. Are you still sore about the other debate? My arrogance is laughable? The pettiness of the posters on this forum is much worse.

But it's nice to have a fanbase, must admit.

Originally posted by demigawd
For the heck of it, I'm going to side with Vader, here. He needs some support. The Force is all-encompassing - either it works or it doesn't. If Vader was able to communicate via the Force across the galaxy, that's pretty high level telepathy. He was also able to communicate through forcefields, which means the the force penetrates forcefields. If you can use the force to communicate through forcefields, you can use it to affect people through forcefields. So Vader could rip off Doom's armor and disable his weapons system entirely. Doom's tech, advanced as it is, is AT MOST on par with Empire tech. Nothing Vader hasn't seen before. And he's pretty mechnically inclined too, you know.

Hahaahaha. The Vader fan club really IS beginning to form. Funny how many people diss fans of Doom and then go do that which they claim we were doing, but weren't. Gotta love the hypocricy behind it.

Besides the fact that you're voting for everyone BUT Doom, I'll reply.

Just because he can use a bit of telepathy through a "forcefield", he can therefore use telepathy to rip Doom's armour off? Tee hee hee. Rather funny.

Doom isn't on par with Empire tech. Can't say I've ever seen the Empire build or show themselves capable of building a time machine. What do they use? Blasters, spacecraft. Nothing Doom hasn't seen before.

-AC

Originally posted by demigawd
Doom's tech, advanced as it is, is AT MOST on par with Empire tech. Nothing Vader hasn't seen before. And he's pretty mechnically inclined too, you know.

Time machine.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Because Fist of the North is displaying the most "info" if you can call it that.

Yet he openly admits I know more than he. Are you still sore about the other debate? My arrogance is laughable? The pettiness of the posters on this forum is much worse.

But it's nice to have a fanbase, must admit.

Wouldn't exactly call it a "fanbase", but I'm not going there...

Hahaahaha. The Vader fan club really IS beginning to form. Funny how many people diss fans of Doom and then go do that which they claim we were doing, but weren't. Gotta love the hypocricy behind it.

Not sure what you're talking about. You know I have a habit of supporting the underdog. This has nothing to do with Doom. Stop making more out of it than it is.

Besides the fact that you're voting for everyone BUT Doom, I'll reply.

I supported him against Iron Man. Besides that, if people would stop putting Doom against people he can't beat, or at least create threads where he gets prep time, maybe I'd support him more often. Relax. Don't jump down my throat because I Doom isn't much of a fighter. He's not.

Just because he can use a bit of telepathy through a "forcefield", he can therefore use telepathy to rip Doom's armour off? Tee hee hee. Rather funny.

He wouldn't use telepathy to rip Doom's armour off. He'd use the Force. And given that in comics he's ripped doors off starships before, it's easy to see.

Doom resisting the Force? A fundamental component of all reality? tee hee hee. Rather funny.

Doom isn't on par with Empire tech. Can't say I've ever seen the Empire build or show themselves capable of building a time machine. What do they use? Blasters, spacecraft. Nothing Doom hasn't seen before.

If Doom had the same tech as the Empire, he would have conquered the world before. I haven't seen him make any planet-destroying ships, either. Don't think Doom has seen that before.