well, if we are comparing fights, of whom each had previously fought..... gladiator has lost to thor, and to hulk. if i'm not mistaken even thunderstrike had aquitted himself quite well against gladiator. all of whom juggernaut has knocked out, or overpowered on more than one occasion. also, the cartoon isn't in continuity, and it means nothing. they only used juggernaut because in comics they used firelord, and apparently he wasn't popular enough to use in the cartoon version. so he was replaced with juggernaut to lend credibility to gladiator. also, for those saying that gladiator rocks colossus..... juggernaut has too. he has knocked him out twice, from a single blow.........
Gladiator threw the Juggernaut a great distance. While that is fun and all - I sure got a kick out of it - that's more or less a 'so what?' deal. Juggernaut tried to punch him, and the speed of the Gladiator caught him, and threw him away - Jugg's had no chance to really respond to it.
Not like Juggernaut had a chance to fight him in that situation, being a few hundreds miles away at that point. *laughs* He sure was pissed off, though.
Gladiator would either 1) Throw the Juggernaut too far away for the battle to continue in any reasonable amount of time, or after laying into the Juggernaut with some extremely 'oomph' moves, and seeing the Juggernaut bad-mouthing him in response without so much as a scratch, the Gladiator would weaken to a point where I can forsee the Juggernaut landing a punch, sending the Gladiator through a building or whatnot, and it just getting worse from there as the Gladiator continually loses heart (and thus his power).
A sun could not physically melt the Juggernaut. But I don't see how the hell the Juggernaut could get out of the Sun, so I suppose you could say if he was thrown into a Sun, it'd take someone like the pestering Dr. Strange to warp him out again, or something of that nature.
Or have something like the 8th Day Juggernaut occur once more, and have him use his latent, untapped powers to do something about it - what, I do not know.
Hmm..
Unstoppable
Juggernaut tried to punch him, and the speed of the Gladiator caught him, and threw him away - Jugg's had no chance to really respond to it.
Juggernaut didn't just try, he actually landed that punch dead onto Gladiator's chest, yet it had no effect at all. Then Gladiator grabbed him by the arm like a 2 year old and threw his ass across the ocean.
I like the Juggernaut who does not tire and can only be stopped by telepathy. He has a magic shield that not only adds to his phys. inv. but give equal opposition to magic assult. There are few things that should be able to disable Juggernaut, like Magiks soul sword, telepathy, Shatterstars, combination of science/magic swords. Maybe the black knights sword.
Maybe his power is a healing factor that never stops increasing his healing so that he is invulnerable and even when something effects him like shatterstars swords his factor goes forward.
Gladiator can rip light apart but can he rip healing apart?
man o man.... trying to use a cartoon (not in continuity) as an argument??? in the comics, it was firelord that this happened to. not the juggernaut. the cartoon version only used juggernaut because firelord wasn't popular enough. so the switch was made to juggs to lend gladiator credibility, to show how powerful phoenix was. it isn't in continuity and it means nothing.......
Originally posted by JuggernautFan
man o man.... trying to use a cartoon (not in continuity) as an argument??? in the comics, it was firelord that this happened to. not the juggernaut. the cartoon version only used juggernaut because firelord wasn't popular enough. so the switch was made to juggs to lend gladiator credibility, to show how powerful phoenix was. it isn't in continuity and it means nothing.......
so are you saying that juggy should be able to stomp firelord?
not sure.... i was simply trying to say that a cartoon shouldn't be used as a reference point against juggernaut. but i must say it COULD go either way with juggernaut and gladiator. it isn't set in stone, gladiator may have the technology/wider array of power to take down juggernaut (not permanently mind you). i'm leaning towards 50/50 myself. that is if gladiator is written properly. if it is the one that his confidence shakes him, then he will lose. and bad at that.
Juggernautfan
man o man.... trying to use a cartoon (not in continuity) as an argument??? in the comics, it was firelord that this happened to. not the juggernaut.
No all of us. Some brought up that they remembered Gladiator taking Juggernaut's punch in the cartoon series. However, the rest of us were only talking about what happened and trying to remember the events and correcting some mistakes made about what happened during that encounter in the cartoon series. We weren't using it as evidence in a fight.
Originally posted by JuggernautFan
well, if we are comparing fights, of whom each had previously fought..... gladiator has lost to thor, and to hulk. if i'm not mistaken even thunderstrike had aquitted himself quite well against gladiator. all of whom juggernaut has knocked out, or overpowered on more than one occasion. also, the cartoon isn't in continuity, and it means nothing. they only used juggernaut because in comics they used firelord, and apparently he wasn't popular enough to use in the cartoon version. so he was replaced with juggernaut to lend credibility to gladiator. also, for those saying that gladiator rocks colossus..... juggernaut has too. he has knocked him out twice, from a single blow.........
Originally posted by Unstoppable
Gladiator threw the Juggernaut a great distance. While that is fun and all - I sure got a kick out of it - that's more or less a 'so what?' deal. Juggernaut tried to punch him, and the speed of the Gladiator caught him, and threw him away - Jugg's had no chance to really respond to it.Not like Juggernaut had a chance to fight him in that situation, being a few hundreds miles away at that point. *laughs* He sure was pissed off, though.
Gladiator would either 1) Throw the Juggernaut too far away for the battle to continue in any reasonable amount of time, or after laying into the Juggernaut with some extremely 'oomph' moves, and seeing the Juggernaut bad-mouthing him in response without so much as a scratch, the Gladiator would weaken to a point where I can forsee the Juggernaut landing a punch, sending the Gladiator through a building or whatnot, and it just getting worse from there as the Gladiator continually loses heart (and thus his power).
you guys are just biased because your big juggernaut fans....of course youre going to say that juggernaut can beat anyone! id like to see you admit that juggs would lose against someone
Originally posted by JuggernautFan
i also believe that spiderman has a clear cut victory over firelord. we all know that spiderman is no match for juggernaut..... so yea id say it's well within juggernauts abilities to match firelord....
This is a VERY faulty argument, JF. Spiderman beat Firelord in a FISTFIGHT. He was also able to dodge Firelord's blasts. Spiderman is waaaaaay quicker and way more agile than Juggernaut, plus has his Spider Sense to aid him. Do you think that Spiderman would have been able to survive one of those blasts of flame if it hit him directly?
That being said, you DO realize that Firelord is of Class 100 Strength and wields the power cosmic? I will also point out that the "power cosmic" is not a TERRESTRIAL force, because pursuant to Juggernaut's profile:
"Once he begins to walk in a certain direction, no obstacle or force on Earth has been observed to be able to stop him."
But does that matter since "If the Beyonder let loose a blast that destroyed the entire solar system, only JUGGERNAUT would be unharmed?" -- not-so-anonymous, ardent Juggernaut fan
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Originally posted by JuggernautFan
i also believe that spiderman has a clear cut victory over firelord. we all know that spiderman is no match for juggernaut..... so yea id say it's well within juggernauts abilities to match firelord....
Like Never said, Firelord is cosmic level; he shouldn't have lost to Spiderman.
I know Spideys beaten Juggernaut before, but he shouldn't be able to. Peter's at Class 10 and shoots webbing, yet that should not match Juggernaut's magical nature which gives him Class 100 and invulnerbility. Juggernaut getting beaten by Spidey is crap. Spidey beating Firelord is bullcrap.
Juggernaut's stat:
1] emassary of the god Cyttarok (magical in nature)
2] invulnerbility against attacks
3] Class 100
4] Magical Force Field
5] Intellegence: Low
6] Slow
Firelord's stat:
1] herald of Galactus (cosmic in nature)
2] Can fly through a star like most heralds
3] Class 100
4] Energy level is equivalent to the outer layers of a small star
5] Fly near light speed
Btw these two, Firelord has the edge over Juggernaut against Spidey. Spidey's speed, sense, and ability to keep a distance gives him a better chance at fighting or surviving an encounter against Marko. Against Firelord - who's faster, stronger, and more versatile - Spidey would be lucky to live through such a fight with the herald. Peters wins against Juggy and Firelord are shit, mainly against Firelord.