Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Kerry - out of the all philosophies and religions i have read about and encountared in my life, I believe Buddhism is, in my view the best.Im just sorry that some people still view Buddhism as a religion, which in fact it is NOT, its a philosophy of life.
There isnt such a thing as ''better place'' I believe you just as buddhism says ''become one with the universe''
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✅ I'm partially Buddhist 😎
Re: Fate
Originally posted by Darth Revan
"Do you believe in fate, Neo?"
"No."
"Why not?"
"Because I don't like the idea that I'm not in control of my life."
I couldn't say it any better myself. I won't let anything control me, only myself. I want to be in control of my life. No else can tell me what to do.
Darth> Nah, you're just drunk. Been in the evolution-thread again? 🙂
Interesting. If God is omnipotent he does indeed already know who goes to Hell and who goes to Heaven before they're born. Essentially this God allows for people to be condemned to eternal torment before they were born.
Aent Elrond> But how do you know that you are yourself totally in control of your life? You cannot control other people, we feel what we feel regardless, we can only be taught to control them. You can't forsee the future, now know all your choices.
Syren> Atheism is not a religion, because atheism is without faith and religious rules. ou can cHOOSE to believe in yourself or what have you, or fate, but that s outside the realm of atheism.
Originally posted by Storm
I didn' t ask to be born nor did I eventuallly choose my parents, my sex and the country where I was born.Fate or coincidence...
Hmm... but why call it fate? How about chance. There were hundred million other sperm there, you were the fastest. If it wasnt you, there would have been someone else.
Originally posted by The Omega
Interesting. If God is omnipotent he does indeed already know who goes to Hell and who goes to Heaven before they're born. Essentially this God allows for people to be condemned to eternal torment before they were born.
Then what on Earth is the point in existence at all? So we're all playing pieces on a board? Not even that really, there's no game being played if all of our fates are so perfectly planned. IMHO it's ridiculous, regardless of whether fate exists, the fact that we exist only as preplanned organisms just does not lay well with me.
Agent Elrond> But how do you know that you are yourself totally in control of your life? You cannot control other people, we feel what we feel regardless, we can only be taught to control them. You can't forsee the future, now know all your choices.
I don't think that when one states they wish to be in 'control' of their own destiny they mean they can forsee the future. I think they are simply saying they'd rather have the control, the choice and the decision making, than some other being.
Syren> Atheism is not a religion, because atheism is without faith and religious rules. You can CHOOSE to believe in yourself or what have you, or fate, but that's outside the realm of atheism.
Yep, thanks for clearing that up. As I already said, I'm an Atheist. Therefore I credit myself with knowing full well what that entails......
Syren> The point to existence? There is none. Only what you make of it. It can be scaring or liberating depending on your point of view, but I’ve never seen anything I could call fate or “the hand of God”. Coincidences? Sure, they happen, but it’s just chance. The “if I hadn’t gone there that day, I’d never have met…” shows how coincidental and accidental our lives are.
I do not believe in any gods. Among the reasons is the lines you quoted me for. Gods are essentially contradictory. If they’re omnipotent they already know everything that’ll happen and do not intervene to prevent terror, murder, bombs, muggings, rape etc etc etc. If they allow this they’re evil. If they’re not omnipotent why worship them?
I know that saying “I’d like to be in control of my life” isn’t saying “I want to predict the future”. But what IS being in control of your own life really? As I said, I can’t control what my boss does, nor what my colleagues, friends and family do. Nor anybody else for that matter. These people still have a certain “power” over me, in the sense that my choices sometimes depends on their wishes. Of course I could chose not to, but well… Who wants to be friendless? 🙂
I suppose one way of defining “being in control” is being able to make my own decisions freely. That when I make a choice no one is telling me I HAVE to make that choice, and I am free to make another should I so choose. But then … what about consequences? What about the choices I cannot see?
Any takers?
Some problems with definitions here...
First of all, being Omnipotent has nothing to do with it. The word you want is Omniscient.
Secondly, just because you know everything, doesn't mean you know what cannot be known. Omnisicnet only complestes a potential list. So therefore, the idea that God knows all that will happen to these people is only a belief in certain religous circles, though some of them major ones. it is not an idea endemic to God.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
DR has explained for you.I dont know how more plainly to explain it to you. The idea of Fate and God contradict each other. If unsure then re-read all my post and DR's post as well.