Originally posted by The Omega
Lady van Tramp> So how does one man becoming a father make him an expert on whether or not all people on the planet are fit to be parents? And whether or not having kids should be a right?
I see your point, in fact I agree.
But turn it around. None of us are experts, we all have different experiences, which leads me again to individual opinion. I don't think he stated once that he was an expert, just that he's an individual. As are you and I.
Mamma --> You are totally right. As unfortunate as it may be, that's the way it is. No amount of fighting between us is going to change a single thing. It's really quite sad.
Well jeez Fin, I asked 2 or 3 times and no one said anything.
OK, Fin, Mamma and I can lecture the rest of you until this overcooked thread is closed, like Lady von T so intelligently suggested.
Thanks for the kind words Lady. I'm getting used to being under fire around here. Its actually shocking to get any support, I totally did a double take when I first read your post, waiting for the dripping sarcasm to set in! I like a good debate as well as the next guy, but 'debate' and 'petty argument' seem interchangable here at KMC. All in good fun though right?
I've come to the conclusion that Omega just wants a fight, and I'm not willing to give her one anymore.
"The sad fact of the matter is that we can debate this issue to death and things will not change, people who shouldnt be having children will continue to have children, abortions will always continue, gays will be gay, homophobes will always be that way, the conservatives and the liberals will always disagree and theres not a damn thing any of us can do except learn to get along in this world and do the best we can.
mamma"
You said it Mamma. We just gotta do the best we can. Its better to try and be the solution rather than accepting your lot as a statistic in the making.
I second Lady von Tramp's motion that the thread be closed. If nothing new is said in the next three of four posts, I think this dog needs to be put down.
What Lady says is, however, entirely incorrect.
Everyone here has the right to judge an opinion right or wrong if they want. If you are not prepared to have your opinion criticised- DO NOT POST IT. It is absolutely not so that an opinion cannot be called right or wrong just because it is a point of view. If a point is advanced it is open to be refuted, regardless of how much experience is claimed behind it and hence the argument was legitimate. People's arguments should then stand or fall on their own merits.
Is Finti Norweigian for 'Cranky Smurf'? You northerners need more sunlight or something...buncha grumpy ol codgers.
I'll remember not to aim humor your way anymore, master Finti.
Ush is the true lecture-meister around here anyways. I was wondering what took him so long to add his two cents.
You just gotta love the mods here at KMC.
No, its Californian for "I'm an rude, overly sarcastic yank with no sense of political correctness". Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
jerry
I love when you guys call us yanks...as if its supposed to be insulting. You want to insult me, call me French...or Euro liberal. Oh wait, those are the same things.
Uh oh, I went there! I made a political statement. Now I must burn in Norway...I mean Hell, and this thread must be closed according to The Rules.
Why are there blue and red bandana'd smileys? Have crips and bloods taken the fight online?
I love when you guys call us yanks...as if its supposed to be insulting.it aint ment as an insult, we actually call you all yanks. After all it was the US soldiers during WWII that ran around calling themselves yanks so I dont see why it would be an insult.
You want to insult me, call me French...or Euro liberal. Oh wait, those are the same things. Uh oh, I went there! I made a political statement. Now I must burn in Norway...I mean Hell, and this thread must be closed according to The Rules.oh you are most welcome to Norway, we gladly burn you under the suspicion of being a "French" or Euro liberal. 😎 😮💨 The fire would do us northernes good, kind of substitute for sunlight for us grumpy ol codgers.
Guess it would be some sort of "french fry" at the stake then
Ah! Finti made a funny! Good show, you salty dog!
You can be the straight man to my buffoon. Our big joke will be me calling you Fin, and you hitting me with your hat!
"Creeeeeechuur!!!!" *smack*! Vaudeville, here we come.
Honestly, thats what I love about this place. We can tear each others throats out and still share some laughs...well, at least I'm laughing.
and on that note.......... i think each situation is different . my cousin is a prime example of someone whos "rights" to have children should be taken away . she has 5 children whom are lucky to get fed when they do . her & her husband would rather enjoy pot instead of put food in the house . they live in such filth its disgusting . piles of trash every where , dirty diapers piled on the kitchen counters & and out on the lawn to which their rotwielers have used as chew toys . not to mention the bruises on these babies legs , arms & back . i could tell you stories that make would make you sick . dss has removed the children from their care 7 times saying each time that the next "offence" will result in them losing custody . well , unfortunetly our socail workers are understaffed & underpaid , so the children suffer instead . do i think its a right to have children ? in their case , HELL no .