The Draft

Started by silver_tears8 pages

There were always maniacs, Bush is not dealing with something no other president has had to deal with.

Wars have come and gone, and will do so again.

But what happens when We are the Terrorists?
MOAB=terror
Shock and awe=terror.

Seriously guys- please do not turn this political! Keep to the subject alone, don't turn this into a pro-Bush anti-Bush war, that is absolutely the last thing we want.

Originally posted by silver_tears
There were always maniacs, Bush is not dealing with something no other president has had to deal with.

Wars have come and gone, and will do so again.

I agree that there will always be maniacs.

But he is indeed dealing with something that no other president has dealth with before.

Or is this the 2nd time that planes have been flown into sky scrappers and the Pentagon? 😕

Due to incompetency it probably isn't.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't some teenager kid fly his plane into a building last year with a suicide note attached.

a single engine sessna flying into a building causing the loss of no more than 20 human lives is a bit different than international terrorists systematically hijacking 4 commercial air liners and flying them into sky scrappers and government buildings full of thousands of people.

But sure i guess you could consider them one in the same. Since teenagers commiting suicide are SUCH a threat to mational security.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
Revan. The war on terror will always exsist. As long as there are maniacs (born everyday) willing to do something to lash out against others. Just like the war on drugs. But using your arguement, it sounds like we should stop trying to catch drug dealers and just let them be. Someone's got to police terrorists otherwise they would run rampid. Sure they still exsists, but not nearly in the same numbers, and not nearly with as much power.

You can't compare Bush to Clinton, Clinton never got attacked by terrorists. He had an easy time in the office.

Everything changes in times of crisis. Who's to say our economy wouldn't be flurishing and our medicare coverage wouldn't be more than adequate if not for 9/11. Everything in this nation changed because of that, and if you honestly feel that a less than 5 years after the attacks, our whole nation is back to it's optimum...then i'm sorry you feel that way.

Bush is dealing with something no president has ever had to handle....and he's doing a pretty good job. Sure John Kerry can use hind sight to point out mistakes by Bush, but if he was in Bush's seat at the time of the attacks....who's to say he would have done any better.

That's like blaming the stock market crash on the President....it's not fair.

Public Education is a result of Local Governments. If you have a problem at your school. Call your governor. 😄

Education is state matter, thought the Feds should do more.
Bush is doing a so-so job.
The Twin towers were attacked when Clinton was in office, and yet he did nothing.

Don't respond. I don't what this to get politcal, as Ush said.

Sliver, yeap it's true. Poor kid. He wanted some attention

But what happens when We are the Terrorists?
MOAB=terror
Shock and awe=terror.

what are MOAB? Shock and awe is not terrorism. The German army used it WW2, yet no one called it terrorism. Rethinl your defination of terrorism.

Any loss of human life by another for no other reason then to stir controversy is terrorism in my view.

Escuse me if it doesn't fit into yours.

This is aimed at Link btw.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
Revan. The war on terror will always exsist. As long as there are maniacs (born everyday) willing to do something to lash out against others. Just like the war on drugs. But using your arguement, it sounds like we should stop trying to catch drug dealers and just let them be. Someone's got to police terrorists otherwise they would run rampid. Sure they still exsists, but not nearly in the same numbers, and not nearly with as much power.

You can't compare Bush to Clinton, Clinton never got attacked by terrorists. He had an easy time in the office.

Everything changes in times of crisis. Who's to say our economy wouldn't be flurishing and our medicare coverage wouldn't be more than adequate if not for 9/11. Everything in this nation changed because of that, and if you honestly feel that a less than 5 years after the attacks, our whole nation is back to it's optimum...then i'm sorry you feel that way.

Bush is dealing with something no president has ever had to handle....and he's doing a pretty good job. Sure John Kerry can use hind sight to point out mistakes by Bush, but if he was in Bush's seat at the time of the attacks....who's to say he would have done any better.

That's like blaming the stock market crash on the President....it's not fair.

Public Education is a result of Local Governments. If you have a problem at your school. Call your governor. 😄

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Actually, the Great Depression was largely president Wilson's fault, from what I've heard...

Public education isn't all a result of local governments. The federal government has a lot to do with it... And I know this because both my parents work in the public education system. Look at the "No Child Left Behind" act... It's a load of crap. You know how it works? What happens is, everybody takes a big, important test. Now, this test is the same test for every kid in a grade level--students who barely speak English, or have mental disabilities, have to take the same test. There is absolutely no way that Juan from Nicaragua is going to be able to pass the same test everybody else has to take in English. Then, guess what happens if everybody fails? The gov't cuts funding to the school. Wouldn't it make more sense if the schools that had a lot of disadvantaged/immigrant/mentally disabled kids got MORE funding?

And you can't blame all our problems on 9/11. The economy was on its way to hell before it happened.

Actually, the Great Depression was largely president Wilson's fault, from what I've heard...

Your heard wrong. Overproduction, and some other factors killed it.

Try to stay on topic. If you want to talk about edu, make a new thread

yes i agree with you on that Silv, but we're talking on slightly different scales.

One can be handled without concern for future attacks the other can't. Or should we use all of our Home Land Security resources looking for Sleep cells of suicidal high school plane flyers? I know you wouldn't suggest that, so for the sake of this arguement, lets just drop this subject.

How do you feel about the draft?
I think it's wrong, for the previously mentioned reason that it is against all that this country stands for.

Originally posted by Agent Elrond
Actually, the Great Depression was largely president Wilson's fault, from what I've heard...

Your heard wrong. Overproduction, and some other factors killed it.

heh sorry 😮

still... he could've done a lot of things to try and fix it, but he didn't...

People do take our freedoms for advantage, so the should 'pay' for our freedoms, but other than that, there's no reason to have a draft. Read my first post

If you pay for a freedom, it is no longer free 😕

freedom isn't free
-Tom Clancy

Keep it on topic guys. This thread is not for debate for or against Bush.

Originally posted by Agent Elrond
freedom isn't free
-Tom Clancy

that's talking about something else though, which is killing people for freedom 😉 😛

Though actually you could reapply it to mean that what we see as "the free world" really isn't free...

Freedom - you've gotta give
For what you take

-Robbie Williams

If there's a draft, I'm joining the Navy

If there's a draft, it's to mexico with me.