Originally posted by K3VIL
Thanos haven't a decoy, there's not even evidence for assuming this.
if he hasn't got a decoy, how exactly did he manage to fool the grand master in his conquest of the infinity gems?
i seem to remember some sort of duplicate...
oh and in infinity abyss, the thanosi that thanos created... they were inexact, but thanos made them that way purposefully. why not make exact duplicates?
hmmm, strange that you say that thanos would have no decoy...
Originally posted by HisMajestyAC43
if he hasn't got a decoy, how exactly did he manage to fool the grand master in his conquest of the infinity gems?i seem to remember some sort of duplicate...
oh and in infinity abyss, the thanosi that thanos created... they were inexact, but thanos made them that way purposefully. why not make exact duplicates?
hmmm, strange that you say that thanos would have no decoy...
Mostly they made him fight like a dummy, he shot himself in the face with one of his most powerful attacks, I think that took a lot of fight out of him. Then, ignoring the fact he could teleport himself and Supes, he stood and fought Supes toe to toe inside of the sun, the source of Supes' vast energy.
Hmm. Definitely a close one. But if I were a gambling man (which I'm not), my money would be on Thanos of Titan.
Let's look at the matchups:
Intelligence: Darkseid is one of the most brilliant schemers in the DCU. Anyhow. Thanos has outwitted the Magus twice, beaten the Grandmaster on his home turf, and tricked Mephisto at least once. If this battle is one of long-term strategy, Darkseid loses.
Power: While Darkseid is arguably more powerful (especially if we're using the King's Darkseid), the power difference isn't all that significant. The Omega Effect will not be a factor, since Thanos is simply too powerful. If all they're doing is tossing around energy bolts, Darkseid has the advantage, but I don't think that's how the battle will go.
Fighting Skills: Darkseid is a skilled warrior (he has to be to take on Orion in single combat), but Thanos overtakes him here. Thanos personally trained Gamora, who is at least one of the top five martial artists in the Marvel Universe. Thanos has at least held his own with the finest warriors of Asgard. If Thanos turns this into a hand-to-hand fight, Darkseid will be fighting at a heavy disadvantage.
Speed: Darkseid can cope with Flash-level speeds, but Thanos has repeatedly slaughtered the Silver Surfer in open combat. Too close to call.
Endurance: Thanos has fought *Odin*. In *Asgard*. And held him almost to a standstill. Name me one occasion where Darkseid has even matched this. Keep in mind also that Thanos cannot die, because Death banned him from her realm. Darkseid is going to have real problems keeping Thanos down.
Originally posted by blind faithSilver Surfer doesn't always go into superspeed mode. They sometimes fight at normal speed. And do we even know if Thanos can move at quick speeds with his body? We know he has ships and other technology to boost his speed but his body's speed?
Speed: Darkseid can cope with Flash-level speeds, but Thanos has repeatedly slaughtered the Silver Surfer in open combat. Too close to call.
Originally posted by bbrem123Darkseid's no wimp. He probably could pull a win against them if he wanted and really tried. He didnt chicken out with Emperor Joker after he possessed SHAZAM, Zeus, Stranger, etc....in that one scan.
lately thanos has shown that he would be to much for darkseid.he defeated the watcher and even koed the fallen one who was looking to confront galactus head on.
Originally posted by K3VIL
AVATAR= Being imbued with fraction of power of the original oneDuplicates/Clones=Copies of the original one, in the case of Thanos, they weren't powerful as him.
avatars have a fraction of the power of the original...
thanosi are imperfect clones, ie have a fraction of original thanos's power...
its the same type of thing.
my point was that you can't argue that darkseid would possibly come to this fight as an avatar, without taking into considering that thanos might have a clone in his place as well. both of which i doubt.
but regardless of replacements and clones, i still think that the current thanos would prove to be too much for darkseid the majority of the time.
Originally posted by General Kon-Elwell Thanos isn't the fastest, but he is fast with reflexes and the people he beats could count for something. Thor can move at 3x lightspeed. Loses to Thanos, at the same time as the rest of the Avengers. Not to mention Thanos is way too calm and collected when he fights. Combat wise hes fast, he spars and fights guys faster than Spiderman. IMO That's enough to take on people like Superman considering the level of durability he has or what do you think?
Silver Surfer doesn't always go into superspeed mode. They sometimes fight at normal speed. And do we even know if Thanos can move at quick speeds with his body? We know he has ships and other technology to boost his speed but his body's speed?
IMO, current Thanos takes current Darkseid 6/10 w/o prep. W/ prep, Thanos trounces Darkseid 8/10.
I'm not disrepsecting Darkseid; he used to be a beast, but just isn't what he used to be. When DC writers start portraying Darkseid as the top of the food chain again (smacking down Superman would help), I'll change my opinion.
Originally posted by blind faithi completely agree with you. thanos never opens up in a fight!
well Thanos isn't the fastest, but he is fast with reflexes and the people he beats could count for something. Thor can move at 3x lightspeed. Loses to Thanos, at the same time as the rest of the Avengers. Not to mention Thanos is way too calm and collected when he fights. Combat wise hes fast, he spars and fights guys faster than Spiderman. IMO That's enough to take on people like Superman considering the level of durability he has or what do you think?
Endurance: Thanos has fought *Odin*. In *Asgard*. And held him almost to a standstill. [/B]
Rubbish. Thanos didnt fight Odin almost to a standstill, he kept attacking Odin and had no effect whatsoever. On the other hand, Odin kept stepping up his attack little by little until Thanos was clearly incapable of defending himself. Taking pity, Odin asked Thanos if he was ready to give up yet. Thanos, being too stupid to know when to quit, and having full knowledge of the fact that none of his attacks had the slightest effect on Odin, said "no". That's not fighting to a standstill, thats asking to have your ass kicked after it's already happened once.