But eggs don't spontaneously just appear, there had to be something to lay the egg, in fact, there had to be something to fertilize it as well. Its a bit like saying, what came first, man, or the egg (obviously, baring Biblical creation, an ova didn't just one day appear and become a human, forgetting the sperm as well)...
So, something had to lay the egg, probably something a lot different to a chicken, but over the years evolution occurred, and eventually chickens began to appear, but it would be a long process, chickens wouldn't have just appeared, it would be gradual, in fact, chickens today are different from chickens 100 years ago, thats the wonder of evolution.
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
But eggs don't spontaneously just appear, there had to be something to lay the egg, in fact, there had to be something to fertilize it as well. Its a bit like saying, what came first, man, or the egg (obviously, baring Biblical creation, an ova didn't just one day appear and become a human, forgetting the sperm as well)...So, something had to lay the egg, probably something a lot different to a chicken, but over the years evolution occurred, and eventually chickens began to appear, but it would be a long process, chickens wouldn't have just appeared, it would be gradual, in fact, chickens today are different from chickens 100 years ago, thats the wonder of evolution.
You're forgetting fish eggs, etc. that were here long before the "chicken".
Animal reproduction takes place via Viviparous, Oviparous or Ovoviviparous methods. Viviparous refers to embryo development internal to the parent body, excluding the laying of an egg. Oviparous means the laying of an egg where the embryo develops entirely or virtually entirely inside the egg and not in the parent body. Ovoviviparous is the means of reproduction via egg development and hatching inside the parent body.
The givens concerning origin of egg and animal are the following: An egg can only come from an egg-producing animal; thus, there must first be an animal allowing the existence of eggs at all. An animal, on the other hand, can come from either another animal or from an egg produced by an animal.
Based on this, we have now arrived at a logically exhaustive premise. In short: without an animal their can be no egg, but without an egg their can be an animal.
Thus, the issue concerning the primary origin a propos egg and animal is resolved and we must logically conclude that animal comes before egg.
Turning our focus now to the chicken and egg question, first of all it is not only an unnecessary question, but also an irrational question. Evolution of species essentially takes place through mutations being either fit or unfit in relation to their environmental condition. The two possible origins of the chicken are: a chicken born from a non-chicken species through the viviparous method (this mutated form of the non-chicken species is egg laying), and a chicken hatched from an egg produced by a non-chicken species, where the chicken is again a mutated form (egg laying) of its non-chicken predecessor. So the real question should rather be: by which method did the chicken ancestor give birth to the chicken. The only two possible origins are those mentioned above. Simply put, the chicken ancestor was before the chicken; and the real matter of importance is that the ANIMAL came BEFORE the EGG.
Animal reproduction takes place via Viviparous, Oviparous or Ovoviviparous methods. Viviparous refers to embryo development internal to the parent body, excluding the laying of an egg. Oviparous means the laying of an egg where the embryo develops entirely or virtually entirely inside the egg and not in the parent body. Ovoviviparous is the means of reproduction via egg development and hatching inside the parent body.
The givens concerning origin of egg and animal are the following: An egg can only come from an egg-producing animal; thus, there must first be an animal allowing the existence of eggs at all. An animal, on the other hand, can come from either another animal or from an egg produced by an animal.
Based on this, we have now arrived at a logically exhaustive premise. In short: without an animal their can be no egg, but without an egg their can be an animal.
Thus, the issue concerning the primary origin a propos egg and animal is resolved and we must logically conclude that animal comes before egg.
Turning our focus now to the chicken and egg question, first of all it is not only an unnecessary question, but also an irrational question. Evolution of species essentially takes place through mutations being either fit or unfit in relation to their environmental condition. The two possible origins of the chicken are: a chicken born from a non-chicken species through the viviparous method (this mutated form of the non-chicken species is egg laying), and a chicken hatched from an egg produced by a non-chicken species, where the chicken is again a mutated form (egg laying) of its non-chicken predecessor. So the real question should rather be: by which method did the chicken ancestor give birth to the chicken. The only two possible origins are those mentioned above. Simply put, the chicken ancestor was before the chicken; and the real matter of importance is that the ANIMAL came BEFORE the EGG.