Why? SpellJammer is hesitant, he DOES get flammed alot..
And he never said evil people can't be redeemed and or can't reach Buddhivistha.. But that's not what we're discussing, we're saying are some people prone to falling? And the answer is yes, does that mean they're doomed to lifetimes of being immoral, hideous abomonations? No. Not if they don't want too. Not stronger the darkside, just easier..
Originally posted by Spelljammer
Why? SpellJammer is hesitant, he DOES get flammed alot..And he never said evil people can't be redeemed and or can't reach Buddhivistha.. But that's not what we're discussing, we're saying are some people prone to falling? And the answer is yes, does that mean they're doomed to lifetimes of being immoral, hideous abomonations? No. Not if they don't want too. Not stronger the darkside, just easier..
To say a person is evil, in my religion is a "sin". If a person is truly evil, then the Buddha is evil. If a person is truly evil, then Jesus failed cause this evil person could not be saved. Evil is a yard still, many acts of evil where done with good intent. Think about all of the witches burned at the stake, these were innocent people killed because the church wanted to save their souls.
Originally posted by Napalm
No ants are not people they have no rights. the guy that sawed off limbs with a chainsaw is evil. and so are pedofiles. they both need to be killed
They are indeed evil. Maybe they should be killed, but that's for a different discussion.
To make this idea fit the discussion topic, were these people born to do these things?
Of course not. Sociopaths (insane people who like to kill or otherwise injure people for little or no reason) are made by elements in their environment, most likely heavily influenced by things that happened to them in childhood. They were no born evil, however. They became evil.
Another way of looking at this topic:
All people, simply by existing, are capable of evil, even if they never do anything evil. By this parameter, then all people are born evil.
That's not a very positive outlook, however, and since your reality is determined by your point of view, I choose not to live by this point of view.
Originally posted by JediMusician
...All people, simply by existing, are capable of evil, even if they never do anything evil. By this parameter, then all people are born evil.
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I look at the other side. People are born with good in then but the things they do (karma) changes the path they take in life.
Everybody is capable of evil, it's just that there isn't always anything that happens that brings it out of them. I think some people are born with physcological problems where they may think it is ok to do "evil" things but somehow it seems awful to say they are born evil if it is physcological and it isn't their fault.
Originally posted by Treehuggerjanie
Everybody is capable of evil, it's just that there isn't always anything that happens that brings it out of them. I think some people are born with physcological problems where they may think it is ok to do "evil" things but somehow it seems awful to say they are born evil if it is physcological and it isn't their fault.
What is evil? To me the things that the terrorists did on 9-11 was evil, but to may people in the world it was a great good, a victory from god. So, I ask again, what is evil?
evil= bush, blair, american government, former iraqi government, tyrants, racists, sexists, rapists{arguable}, cold blooded murderers{arguable}, american soldiers who fight even when they know that their reason for fighting is not justifiede{some cases can be argued}, relegious people who truly follow their relegion and do exactly as it says{other than buddhists perhaps}, bad parents{arguablke for some but for most of the third world ,very true}, bullies{pure evil!!!!!!!!!!}, rich tycoons and business men of the west who all make their bilions off of the starving peoples of the world and do it through unfair trade and force{another pure evil}, and LAAAST OF ALLLL "BRITNEY SPEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!"{u cant get more evil than her}
Originally posted by leonheartmm
evil= bush, blair, american government, former iraqi government, tyrants, racists, sexists, rapists{arguable}, cold blooded murderers{arguable}, american soldiers who fight even when they know that their reason for fighting is not justifiede{some cases can be argued}, relegious people who truly follow their relegion and do exactly as it says{other than buddhists perhaps}, bad parents{arguablke for some but for most of the third world ,very true}, bullies{pure evil!!!!!!!!!!}, rich tycoons and business men of the west who all make their bilions off of the starving peoples of the world and do it through unfair trade and force{another pure evil}, and LAAAST OF ALLLL "BRITNEY SPEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!"{u cant get more evil than her}
Couldn't evil also be, to some people, anyone who has the same opinion as you have, above?
Originally posted by §words point
was ed gein evil? what about hitler or charles mansion? were they born evil?
Originally posted by DanieLs_4_Ever
Obviously yes, it is possible for people to be born evil considering if the man on the cross on the necklace of my neck meant nothing to me, then Id be the mediator in this, but since I believe in God, I believe he wouldnt just create a person and say "Hey okay, Im creating you to be evil and kill everyone on earth" and this and that. There are forms of evil, physically and mentally that we cannot explain
If someone was born evil, Jesus could not save that person.
Everyone is born evil. The only men born good were Adam and Jesus, and Adam became evil when he sinned against God. Every man from that point on carries the genetic curse brought on by Adam,(with the exception of Jesus of course, who was fully God/Man without evil)
Some people based on their genetics/family history are more suceptible to certain types of "evil" behaviors than others, however, this still doesn't negate their ability to make choices about what type of life they would like to live.
Originally posted by whobdamandog
Everyone is born evil. The only men born good were Adam and Jesus, and Adam became evil when he sinned against God. Every man from that point on carries the genetic curse brought on by Adam,(with the exception of Jesus of course, who was fully God/Man without evil)Some people based on their genetics/family history are more suceptible to certain types of "evil" behaviors than others, however, this still doesn't negate their ability to make choices about what type of life they would like to live.
Evil is forever.
Forever there is evil.
God forgives, evils doesn't.
We all had the capacity for evil, and in our lifetimes we will use this capacity more times then we can count. Some more then others, but ultimately the darkside dictates how we act or don't act. Little can most of you realize is it is infact evil that keeps us stable, without it's weakining touch we would become too onimpetant to function..
Originally posted by DanieLs_4_Ever
Are these words spoken from that lil Gary Coleman in your avvy over there?
Yes some people are born with the tendancy and mortal thoughts of 'evil acts' but knowone naturally put here by God is "evil". At least that's my opinion.
If you read scripture, you'll see that your opinion really isn't in accordance with it.
Romans 3 10-18No One is Righteous
As it is written:
There is no one righteous, not even one:
there is no one who understands,
no one who seeks God.All have turned away,
They have together become worthless
there is no one who does good,
not even one.
Their throats are open graves;
there tongues practice in decietThe poison of vipersis on their lips
Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness,
Their feet are swift to shed blood;
ruin and misery mark their ways.
andthe way of peace they donot know,
There is no fear of God before their eyes.
The bible also mentions that we were all conceived in "sin"..can't remember which scripture though.
Anyway..we are all born inherently evil in the eyes of God.
Originally posted by whobdamandog
If you read scripture, you'll see that your opinion really isn't in accordance with it.The bible also mentions that we were all conceived in "sin"..can't remember which scripture though.
Anyway..we are all born inherently evil in the eyes of God.
I feel sorry for you. To think that you are evil from birth, is evil itself.
The bible is just a book, fill with peoples opinions and thoughts.
A child, when first born, knows nothing of evil or good. The entity which this child is an incarnation of, hold all the karma for this life just born. That Karma shapes the path that this life will take, be it good or evil. We all have God within us and God is not evil.
Well, if you go by the bible, technically he's right. Hence the whole original sin thing.
But...that's a big "if".
People are born with the capacity of evil, that is for sure. Anyone is capable of doing evil deeds, but that doesn't necessarily mean one is born evil. Being evil depends on your choices in life, your upbringing. That's what I think, anyways.