Cable vs. Nate Grey AKA X-man

Something like that. They had different upbringing too. They could be two completely different people in spite of being so similar.

Originally posted by HarmonicFlo88
spyrokinesi35, that made no sense. snakeeyes, so you consider low-blows to be acceptable too?

Yep, definitely acceptable. A win is a win. That's Cable using some strategy right there. I don't see it as much of a low blow though. It's not like Cable was holding a loved one of X-Man hostage, it was a one-on-one bout and he won.

No.

It was supposed to be one on one bout between Cable and X-man, not X-man vs his own powers.

Cable pissed him off enough that X-man overloaded himself...it wasn't as if Cable used any of his powers to win. He simply turned X-mans powers on himself which is pretty much ALL he could do... which shouldn't count for a win. If they faught again, X-man would know of cables cheap tactics and whoop his ass everytime.

so really....X-man's anger beat himself. Cables powers, strength and weaponry had nothing to do with his victory - therefore should not be be used as a referrence to support Cable being more powerfull.

Given. At the time they wrote the Cable vs. X-Man issues, Nathan did not have the psionic wherewithal to take down X-Man. But stop making it seem as though Cable simply " cheated ". If X-Man was as powerful as he thought he was -- Cable would've never been able to coheres him into overloading his powers. Not to mention the fact that Cable's entire battle strategy has always relied on cunning and subterfuge. That's what he does. He's a soldier and apparently his plan worked. The bout was MORE than fair. Especially since Cable DIDN'T have the full range of his abilities. X-Man had the advantage! But since he didn't have the EXPERIENCE to use his powers he was easily taken. So the battle was more than fair. It's all about experience and cunning gents. Without it people are doomed to fail.

but if nate was able to control his immense power, you admit he would be the winner?

Originally posted by crazyspinz
no offence dude, but hes right, cykes is a pansy

i agree

no offence dude, but hes right, cykes is a pansy

i agree

how is he? dont include the movie version cos even im embarassed about that one

Originally posted by HarmonicFlo88
Marvel Universe Hierarchy
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[curtesy Mane]

1. The Heart Of The Universe
2. The One Above All
3. Living Tribunal
4. Infinity Gauntlet
5. Death
6. The Infinites
7. Eternity/Infinity/Galactus (full power)
8. Oblivion
9. The Celestials/Franklin Richards (full power)
10. Master Order/Lord Chaos
11. Chronos/[b]X-Man (full power)/Onslaught (full power)
12. Love/Hate
13. Eon/Epoch/Chton/Stranger/In-Betweener/Oshtur/Agamotto/Hoggoth/Galactus (normal power)
14. Ego the Living Planet
15. Dark Gods/Elder Gods
16. Eternals
17. Korvak
18. Shaper of Worlds/Beyonder
19. Phoenix Force/Hyperstorm
20. Dormammu/Shuma Goroth/Franklin Richards (normal power)/X-Man (normal power)
21. Demogorge the God Eater
22. Set/Cyttarok/Atum the God Eater/Demiurge/Gaea/Molecule Man
23. Odin/Zeus/Zuras/Asgardian Destroyer/Shaman
24. Pantheon of Gods/Kubik
25. Mephisto
26. King Thor/Thanos/Hulk (full power)
27. Beta Ray Bill/Adam Warlock/Silver Surfer
28. Thor/Drax/Morg/Gladiator/Terrax the Tamer/Dr. Strange
29. Captain Universe/Quasar
30. Genis-Vell/Blackheart/Loki
31. Super Skrull/Annahilus/Blaastar/Black Bolt/Firelord/Apocalypse
32. Atleza/Holocaust/Nova/Nimrod/Ultron/Mandarin/Cable (without virus)
33. Magneto (full power)/Cable (with virus)
34. Vision (full power)/Professor Xavier/Jean Grey
35. Juggernaut/Hulk (normal power)
36. Namor (in water)/The Thing/Colossus/Iron Man/Wonder Man
37. Dr. Doom/T'Challa
38. Vision (normal power)/Ghost Rider/Spider-Man/Namor (out of water)
39. Captain America/Daredevil

Cable Doesn't Stand A Chance. [/B]

1. The Heart Of The Universe
2. Living Tribunal
3. Infinity Gauntlet
4. Death
5. The Infinites
6. Eternity/Infinity/Galactus (full power)
7. Oblivion
8. The Celestials
9. Franklin Richards (full power)
10. Master Order/Lord Chaos
11. Chronos
12. X-Man (full power)/Onslaught (full power)
13. Love/Hate
14. Eon
15. Epoch
16. Chton
17. Stranger/In-Betweener/Oshtur/Agamotto/Hoggoth/Galactus (normal power)/Dark Phoenix
18. Ego the Living Planet
19. Dark Gods/Elder Gods
20. Eternals
21. Korvak
22. Shaper of Worlds
23. Beyonder
24. Phoenix Force
25. Hyperstorm
26. Dormammu/Shuma Goroth/Franklin Richards (normal power)/X-Man (normal power)
27. Demogorge the God Eater
28. Set/Cyttarok/Atum the God Eater/Demiurge/Gaea
29. Pheonix
30. Molecule Man
31. Odin/Zeus/Zuras/Shaman
32. Asgardian Destroyer
33. Pantheon of Gods
34. Kubik
35. Mephisto
36. King Thor/Thanos/Hulk (full power)
37. Beta Ray Bill/Adam Warlock/Silver Surfer/Morg
38. Thor/Drax/Gladiator/Terrax the Tamer
39. Captain Universe/Quasar/Gabriel the Airwalker
40. Dr. Strange
41. Genis-Vell/Blackheart/Loki
42. Vision (full power)/Ghost Rider (full power)
43. Super Skrull/Annahilus/Blaastar/Black Bolt/Firelord/Apocalypse
44. Atleza/Holocaust/Nova/Nimrod/Ultron/Mandarin/Cable (without virus)/Abomination/Champion (on earth)
45. Magneto (full power)
46. Juggernaut/Hulk (normal power)
47. Magneto (normal power)
48. Professor Xavier
49. Jean Grey
50. Cable (with virus)
51. Namor (in water)/The Thing/Colossus/Iron Man/Wonder Man/She-Hulk/Doctor Doom
52. Scarlet Witch/Warbird/Rogue/Emma Frost/Psylocke/Namor (out of water)/War Machine
53. Vision (normal power)/Ghost Rider/Vengeance/Spider-Man/Venom/Deadpool
54. Captain America/Wolverine/Sabretooth/T'Challa/Daredevil

Yes. If X-Man had the full range of his powers and could control them without incident -- he'd hand Cable his ass. Now here's a " What If? " from me. What if X-Man was revived? Do you think that he could take on the " current " God-like Cable with ease? Mind you. The current incarnation of the Askani'son is both experienced on the battle field and very well versed in the use his immense telepathic and telekinetic abilities which aren't at all that far off from X-Man's.

Just for the record. Cable currently is somewhat uninhibited. His power freely flows and he's got a greater grasp of his abilities. Read Cable #100-109, Soldier X #1-12, Cable & Deadpool #1-6.

YEAHYA

W-WHATTTTTT?!

how about we make a petition of sort to re-instate nate grey in marvel?

maybe like, some powerfull being able to re-assemble nate[since nate was displaced to small fragments in everyone on earth] for his own evil purpose. maybe he wants to overthrow someone more powerfull than him. maybe an evil nate who can use ALL his powers and later on he regains his real conscience.... that'd be tyte.

so, realistically - anyone up for it? and wut are tha chances of us being ignored?

so this threads dead? who won??

btw : "From what he’s seen already, Nate exhibits all his psionic and telekinetic potential, and then some, only unchecked by the techno-virus Cable himself carries" thas from x-man#14.

so now that cable is without tha techno organic virus, he is still not as powerfull as nate....AS CABLE SAYS HIMSELF. jeez...

you ppl just need to admit it, x-mans more powerfull, current cable just has more control.

so whered everyone go? are u sayin im right by not posting?

Originally posted by HarmonicFlo88
btw : "From what he’s seen already, Nate exhibits all his psionic and telekinetic [b]potential, and then some, only unchecked by the techno-virus Cable himself carries" thas from x-man#14.

so now that cable is without tha techno organic virus, he is still not as powerfull as nate....AS CABLE SAYS HIMSELF. jeez...
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When and where did Cable say that?

when and where?

umm issue 14 of X-man. God-like cable has more control over his powers, which is why he can do wut he can do....but he is not at nate greys potential [if nate grey ever had tha same control over his powers]

http://uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=2079

thas a summary of that comic.

full synopsis- second paragraph

Full Power

"My telekinesis just sheared down through a hundred and thirty feet of dirt and rock, smashed through four more feet of solid brick and Mortar...and Pulverized it all in mid-air right before your eyes...lets take a minute to imagine what it could do to You."

-Nate Grey