Originally posted by who?-kid
If his strength AND his anger are really limitless, he should be invincible. And he's not.
Strength has nothing to do with invulnerability. Ever see World's Strongest Man competition? They do all kinds of wierd shit, like tossing anvils into 3 story buildings. They are the strongest people on the planet. Doesn't mean I can't shoot one in the face and kill him. Being strong doesn't make anyone invincible.
There's a difference between invincibility and invulnerability. I'm only talking about simple fist fights between Hulk and let's say Abomination, Juggernaut, Gladiator...
I never said he was invulnerable or that he could become 100 % invulnerable, I only mentioned that, if Hulk truly is limitless strong, he never should lose a fight against the guys I just mentioned.
personally I dont think we should re visit any possibles involving Superman And Hulk. for we know what happened the last time. everyone basically cracked open the HATER-ADE and poured all over Superman's head.
Do i Think Hulk is as strong as Supes?-hell no!
Is Hulk capable of matching Supes Str level?--yes, but the match wouldnt last long enuff for him to get that mad.
Are PPl gonna get off on a BS rant that the reason Supes shoudnt couple superspeed w/Str is becuase it would make for less intersting comics?--probably.
When it comes to Str. comparisons are PPl gonna bring up that hulk lifted a mountain thing, even though it wasnt a part of mainstream continuity and Supes have consistenly lifted heavy sh*t in his comics?--more than likely.
what about the possible w/him against hulk,thor,and thing?--3 on 1 is always murder.
But are they even gonna acknowledge that superman would still put up a good fight?--no, they probably will just break out some more HATER-ADE
Hahahahaha.
*Cracks open a can of "I'm about to smash on your argument points and make you look silly"*
Do I Think Hulk is as strong as Supes?-hell no. <--------This is your opinion. I think he is because he is.
Is Hulk capable of matching Supes Str level?--yes, but the match wouldnt last long enuff for him to get that mad.<------Read Hulk #54 and see how long it takes for Hulk to go from monster to whoop machine in about a minute. Then come back with some actual knowledge of The Hulk's strength.
Are PPl gonna get off on a BS rant that the reason Supes shoudnt couple superspeed w/Str is becuase it would make for less intersting comics?--probably.<------Well let's look at the fact that it's not just us saying it. Let's look at the FACT that he doesn't ever use super speed in battles. Yeah, shhhh.
When it comes to Str. comparisons are PPl gonna bring up that hulk lifted a mountain thing, even though it wasnt a part of mainstream continuity and Supes have consistenly lifted heavy sh*t in his comics?--more than likely.<------A) It was in Secret Wars, not an ongoing. This doesn't remove it from continuity. B) It's one of the most known and impressive feats of raw strength in Marvel history so why wouldn't we mention it? Also, I have continually presented other evidence for Hulk's strength yet you seem to be using one of the most impressive as ammo, or trying to, so that it gets overruled. Someone needs to stop being so contradictory and yes I mean you.
what about the possible w/him against hulk,thor,and thing?--3 on 1 is always murder. <-----Funny how every Supes fan has only mentioned the numbers and not the fact that two of these would beat Superman anyway. Yes, yes they would.
But are they even gonna acknowledge that superman would still put up a good fight?--no, they probably will just break out some more HATER-ADE.<-------If you have read my posts you'd know that I have said many times that I like Superman, I just can't stand his fan club. I'm saying he'd lose coz he would. I'm not saying he'd lose coz I don't like him. Which is why some of these people vote against Hulk, coz they don't like him. Also, if you wanna talk about sipping haterade against these characters then you would be the one sucking off the drink dispenser because you and countleess others are the ones dismissing feats displayed by The Hulk AND the fact that Hulk's CREATORS, not fans, CREATORS...created him for the purpose of him being, physically, the strongest Earth mutant there is. So before you get on the hating tip and start bringing in excuses that have nothing to do with the comics, I suggest you take a look at the Superman fans posts here. The one's who claimed he would only lose due to writing, due to weakness or due to something else. Who have the most fact based, unbiased posts in this whole Hulk/Superman debate? Hulk fans. People call me a fanboy when I'm stating the facts and the Superman fan club consists of Supermandaman who is so far up Superman that he's starting to become red and blue and Leatherface who said in other thread that he just straight up hates The Hulk for no reason. Come back when you can scratch the surface.
*Pours your so called hater-ade over you and sips on some "I just smashed on your debate-orade"*
-AC
ok buster 1st off hulk is not a mutant. 2ndly why am i not surprised that it would be you hating on superman.......once again! thats besides the point. i have absolutley no aversions to hulk, none what-so-ever, only when its agianst superman. b-cuz logic is logic. anyway thats the main reason i said we shouldnt revisit this debate cuz its gonna lead to nowhere fast. i beleive what i believe and you the same.
and i find it very intriguing that my post wasnt directed at anyone in particular yet you had to respond with such venom. the very same person who always refuses to give supes is props, regardless of who he is going up against. then you have the gall to imply that I'm being a biased fanboy?.......FOR SHAME SIR! FOR SHAME
"ok buster 1st off hulk is not a mutant. 2ndly why am i not surprised that it would be you hating on superman.......once again! thats besides the point. i have absolutley no aversions to hulk, none what-so-ever, only when its agianst superman. b-cuz logic is logic. anyway thats the main reason i said we shouldnt revisit this debate cuz its gonna lead to nowhere fast. i beleive what i believe and you the same.
and i find it very intriguing that my post wasnt directed at anyone in particular yet you had to respond with such venom. the very same person who always refuses to give supes is props, regardless of who he is going up against. then you have the gall to imply that I'm being a biased fanboy?.......FOR SHAME SIR! FOR SHAME"
Firstly, yes Hulk is a mutant. He wasn't born one but he has been mutated by gamma radiation.
Secondly, why do you continually use the pathetic argument of hating? Every single forum I've been on people use hating if they can't take what's being said. I've said MULTIPLE times and in my last post that I LIKE Superman. Is that beyond your comprehension or literacy?
"i have absolutley no aversions to hulk, none what-so-ever, only when its agianst superman. b-cuz logic is logic. anyway thats the main reason i said we shouldnt revisit this debate cuz its gonna lead to nowhere fast. i beleive what i believe and you the same."
So.....unless Hulk is against someone you like alot, you have no aversions to him. Right, totally makes sense. Also, logic is logic but what place does logical info have in a world where people can fly and do other impossible things? None, or certainly not in this debate. I believe what I believe but the reason I come to believe things is because they are true. I don't believe Bush is a great president because you want him to be. I believe he's shit because he is. I believe Hulk would win because given the history, abilities and style of both combatants Hulk has proven superior in my eyes and many other dwellers of this forum believe the same. I can't speak for Superman haters coz I'm not one and if that will continually be your argument then go for it and prove me right.
As for my little jibe, "Debate-orade", I notice you dedicated a whole post to it. Why? Who's sipping Haterade now? Yeah exactly. Someone just got played like an arcade machine.
-AC
"I just dont see how people can argue that the hulk can beat superman when the hulk has been knocked out by Abomination who can only lift like a 100 tons and superman is faster and liftes way more than that."
Hulk has beaten Abomination, convincingly, twice. Almost killed him the second time.
And you don't see it because you're a Superman lover and have low comic knowledge. That isn't name calling because it's a fact. You just post the same thing everytime.
Hence why my former post about Hulk fans Vs Superman fans is proven now.
-AC
"Well actually if u read the hulk u would of know that abomination has knocked the hulk out in Tales to astonish #90 and the incredible hulk # 171 so go read those and get back to me. and hey dude u dont have to pms evey time someone goes against u"
Where did I say Abomination hasn't knocked him out? Yeah. Quiet then.
A near death defeat and other defeats, to me, says alot more than being knocked out. Not to mention that Abomination at his strongest could probably match Superman's strength or get very near it.
Abomination can lift way WAY more than 100 tons my friend. I suggest you stop using Marvel Directory and trump cards.
"hey dude u dont have to pms evey time someone goes against u."
Strange this, coming from someone who created a thread to verbally abuse me when I whooped him in another thread.
I know my shit. Don't hate on me coz you don't.
-AC
First off i said that Abomination has beatin the hulk i didnt say almost kill him if u get knocked out thats a lose and for u too say that abomination could beat superman is so much bs that just proves that u are being biased against superman because whether u like it or not abomination comes nowhere near supermans strength levels or amount of durability.