The Suggestion Thread

Originally posted by dadudemon
I could have sworn I suggested it before, but I don't see it.

Here's my suggestion on Mod positions:

Every single Mod position should be up for grabs, once a year. It should be voted on by the members.

We could run a tiered system where only local mods can be promoted to global mods, or something like that.

People should get to "run for Mod" and campaign the members. If enough members like them, then they will get elected.

The tiered system would be in place to ensure the KMC doesn't elect a crappy mod to a global position and then regret it. Of the pool of "local mods" would come the global mods, ensuring that the mod has at least one year of tenure before getting the opportunity to mod, globally.

This would eliminate the “inactive mod” syndrome that happens on boards. This also gives the community to actively participate in KMC by either voting for someone they feel best represents they type of person they would like moderating, or even being a mod. I have seen lots of complaints about modding and the reasons are varied: would this not remove most of those excuses?

If you do not think mods react fast enough to trolls, then run for mod.

If you think a mod is mean or unfair, run for mod or vote for someone else.

If you think a mod is too unfair, run for mod or vote for someone else.

If you think your current mod team is overtaxed at times, run for mod and vow to be active.

If you think a mod is too lenient on enforcing the rules, run for mod or vote for someone else.

I really like this idea and it promotes forum activity and fairness. Some current mods may not like this idea at all due to how many enemies they may have due to simply enforcing the rules and others will posit that it would be difficult to get Raz to make any modding changes, each year, after elections. Both points are valid, of course, but I see far more benefit to this than negatives.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Favoritism.

I beg your pardon?

Originally posted by REXXXX
I beg your pardon?

You're also carrying on a dropped topic with your commentary. Don't be coy with me, and don't carry on something that a moderator has requested that you stop.

Originally posted by REXXXX
You're also carrying on a dropped topic with your commentary. Don't be coy with me, and don't carry on something that a moderator has requested that you stop.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I was just kidding, dude. 😕

Whether or not you are kidding does not matter. Ush said that the topic was closed, you commented on it, I repeated again that it was closed and not to be discussed any longer, and you proceeded to post again. Yes, that is a warning, and yes, if it happens again it will be a temp ban. If a mod says to end a discussion, that means it is over, period. No ifs, ands, buts, or jokes about it.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Well, let's just make it clear. Regardless of your views of it being insulting, we do not consider any system like you suggest to be a sensible or practical one of choosing mods.

It's irrelevant in any case as mods are chosen- and will only ever be chosen- one one basis only, and that is Raz's say so. It's his house; he chooses who runs it and on his own criteria on who he thinks is sensible and competent. It comes from his judgement, aided by those he asks. That's the kind of option on mods he wants, not any form of vote.

That closes the matter, so move on please.

I appreciate your civil attitude on the subject. Those things do not go unnoticed.

As I understand it, mods are not selected solely from Raz and Raz only. If that were the case, he would not be able to make an informed decision because he is not around enough. As I understand it, currently, recommendations are given to Raz from his modding staff. He makes an informed decision based on that input from his existing moderators and his own personal input (I assume he skims through threads and looks at posts from those being recommended). A great method, no doubt, and a method commonly used.

Is that the way it is currently done?

My suggestion was to help the KMC members that are slowly falling off, to remain and even gain back some of the lost members.

Originally posted by Peach
Whether or not you are kidding does not matter. Ush said that the topic was closed, you commented on it, I repeated again that it was closed and not to be discussed any longer, and you proceeded to post again. Yes, that is a warning, and yes, if it happens again it will be a temp ban. If a mod says to end a discussion, that means it is over, period. No ifs, ands, buts, or jokes about it.

I'd like to note that my above post does not at all continue the debate of my suggestion, but only addresses how mods are currently selected. If you feel my last little bit there, at the end, continues that subject, most definitely delete it as I mean no offense or disrepect.

Okay, seriously. I'm confused. Just what part of "That closes the matter, so move on please." is so hard to understand?

It's closed. Over. Done with. Not up to be discussed any longer.

If you are simply curious as to how mods are selected, it is generally a group decision between the existing mods and Raz.

Dadudemon, you were asked to drop it, man. I'm going to give you a warning for dragging it out even after we tried putting the last nails in the coffin. Just let it rest, buddy.

Though for the record, I think if it were a popularity contest all current mods would be sacked in place of people who think they'd be great at it and it'd be chaotic.

Let's leave it there.

Out of curiousity, what is looked for when assigning a mod, other than the group discussions Peach mentioned?

Not asking how to become a mod is a general rule, actually.

It's pretty much exactly what Peach said. Varies from forum to forum.

Originally posted by Peach
If you are simply curious as to how mods are selected, it is generally a group decision between the existing mods and Raz.

I'm more trying to throw ideas out there to help KMC as a site.

Do you have any suggestions?

I had some others. Like, could we gradually work the forum into a Web 2.0 medium? That's just an idea, though vague. I am not sure as to the actual process of integration, really. But one way could be developing...say...an application for Facebook that replicates the topics and integrates them with KMC members with "notification" options completely inclusive to facebook, very similar to how they work now but just on facebook. It could function as a portal and make things easier to access. (Think single sign-on.)

I was also thinking about purchasing KMC at a point in the future when it is a very good bargain. Prolly closer to $20,000 than $40,000, is what I'm looking for. KMC is not a bad website, at all.

Many would view connecting their anonymous KMC accounts with their Facebook accounts as a serious and possibly dangerous invasion of privacy... just throwing that out there.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Many would view connecting their anonymous KMC accounts with their Facebook accounts as a serious and possibly dangerous invasion of privacy... just throwing that out there.

Anyone who puts anything personal enough of Facebook for it to be "dangerous" deserves everything they get.

I don't like the fact that you mods aren't even listening to suggestions anymore. At the moment it's a lot like "Oh no! He questioned our authority... All be it in a constructive and civil way.......... THIS MUST END."

On the page before I wasn't even talking about the same topic as dadudemon and Peach said

Originally posted by Peach
The subject was closed. That means it's done with. That means you do not continue to comment about it.

This is a suggestion thread.... Chill out guys.

Spoony, this is not the '***** about the mods' thread. You've been told about this before. It's simply not useful or constructive in any way. You've already been warned once for wasting time in here like that.

I wasn't even bitching about the mods and I was told to shut up though, I was talking about something totally different. I'm just getting frustrated with it.

I think Peach was just speaking generally about the mod picking area, but in any case you are just going to have to be frustrated. Bringing all that in here is just going to cause more issues.

She wasn't talking generally (My post was the only one between it and your post which told dadudemon to stop). I will stop now then. I just hope some of it has sunk in.

I have no idea what you mean. Her post was in response to RJ. I suggest you are more careful in future. Are you surprised that no-one wants to listen to you when you post in such a manner?

If anyone uses this place again as their sounding board to complain about the mods there will be a ban.