The Suggestion Thread

Originally posted by Blue Wiccan
It was me that suggested unapproved roleplaying. Fair enough I can see that is not open to negotiation so I let it slide, Except this..... If that is the case then approvals need to be dealt with a lot faster than it has been, Because kmc has lost a lot of roleplayers through waiting too long sometimes a month and even longer than that sometimes. It's far too lng and most who were interested either move on or forget that they signed up for it in the idea thread, dooming the rp to fail even before it's even begun. Faster approval of rp ideas is a must otherwise the rp forums are going to die.... Speaking of rp forums Hosted is dead pretty much so here is a suggestion merge Hosted and Unhosted together and make one rp forum maybe with an updated set of rules and so on.

Hosted and Unhosted are not going to merge together ever because they are for two different forms of roleplay.

And the reasons for making games wait for approval is so that there's enough interest to actually sustain the game for more than a few days. If someone loses interest that quickly (a month is nothing - try talking to some of us that waited years for a game to start and still kept up a ton of interest!), then obviously they were not that interested to begin with.

Originally posted by Peach
Hosted and Unhosted are not going to merge together ever because they are for two different forms of roleplay.

And the reasons for making games wait for approval is so that there's enough interest to actually sustain the game for more than a few days. If someone loses interest that quickly (a month is nothing - try talking to some of us that waited years for a game to start and still kept up a ton of interest!), then obviously they were not that interested to begin with.

It would be very easy for the game type to simply be specified in each game.

Originally posted by Peach
Hosted and Unhosted are not going to merge together ever because they are for two different forms of roleplay.

And the reasons for making games wait for approval is so that there's enough interest to actually sustain the game for more than a few days. If someone loses interest that quickly (a month is nothing - try talking to some of us that waited years for a game to start and still kept up a ton of interest!), then obviously they were not that interested to begin with.

That's why i think an additional forum where ideas can be tried out would be good. It would likely be somewhat cluttered, but people could actually start playing and after a while, if interest actually kept up they could be promoted into the "approved role playing" forums, which imo, would likely further declutter them, but possibly still have the positive advantages of increased traffic and less ill-will.

It's not even slightly silly- totally open RP forums just degenerate into a total mess with where nothing works well for anyone and there is no mechanism to stop anything meaningful being buried under an avalanche of crap. It is absolutely never happening on my watch. Period.

And any request for hosted and unhosted to be merged shows a misunderstanding of the concepts behind both. They are not sustainable in the same area, and the purpose of the Hosted area is specifically NOT to look busy and pick up posts but allow games of a particular type run at their own pace.

This system was very carefully set up by me after a great deal of effort. It is working just fine.

Oh really? Then the misunderstanding your refering too needs to be corrected... Because it can be confusing for someone new to come here and see ROLEPLAYING FORUM - Roleplay any story you want! Except you can't and then to see Unhosted Roleplays - play free for all games with no single person in charge of the game. Now with the first Hosted the roleplaying forum, looks like you can open a story of whatever but with more moderation with the thread ownerwhos in charge of the game thats some don't read the first thread thinking it's just rules about no godmodding blah and so on and have opened threads. Now with unhosted seems to someone new less moderation of threads free for all, only small rules from the thread owner etc, again some ignore the first thread.

All you have to do is read the clearly noted threads at the top of the page. Reading rules threads is hardly onerous.

I know that. but to someone new. Who has come from a rp site where they haven't needed approvals, just saying it can be misleading. I always read the rules regardless with anything before i open a thread but some don't. So the cluttering can be a mess, but you just close them, why not delete them instead?

And if someone new comes along and makes a mistake like that, we close the thread and refer them to the rules. If I deleted them, they wouldn't see the comment telling them were to go.

It might well be time again to declutter the dead RP threads though. I'll get onto that soon.

Yea might not be a bad idea to do that. Anyway I wasn't having a go or anything I think your alright and appreciate what you do. Sometimes though a change is good Idk didn't mean to offend you if I did.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
It's not even slightly silly- totally open RP forums just degenerate into a total mess with where nothing works well for anyone and there is no mechanism to stop anything meaningful being buried under an avalanche of crap. It is absolutely never happening on my watch. Period.

I agree.

There are role-playing forums out there. If people really want to role-play mad crazy, they could actually go to a forum better suited just for it.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
And any request for hosted and unhosted to be merged shows a misunderstanding of the concepts behind both. They are not sustainable in the same area, and the purpose of the Hosted area is specifically NOT to look busy and pick up posts but allow games of a particular type run at their own pace.

This system was very carefully set up by me after a great deal of effort. It is working just fine.

That's more or less what I was getting at. KMC has a specific brand of role-playing and if people don't like it, there are far better places to role-play, if this "brand" isn't their cup of tea.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
It's not even slightly silly- totally open RP forums just degenerate into a total mess with where nothing works well for anyone and there is no mechanism to stop anything meaningful being buried under an avalanche of crap. It is absolutely never happening on my watch. Period.

And any request for hosted and unhosted to be merged shows a misunderstanding of the concepts behind both. They are not sustainable in the same area, and the purpose of the Hosted area is specifically NOT to look busy and pick up posts but allow games of a particular type run at their own pace.

This system was very carefully set up by me after a great deal of effort. It is working just fine.

Whilst staying on the subject of forum changes. I do have a suggestion if raz does ever come back then maybe he could change the order of certain forums move them around from where their usually stationed, It would make people search more and not bypass certain forums for instance... Instead of having news and suggestions right at the bottom have it right at the top, place these together the music forum and sci fi and fantasy should be near the movie forums as should the tv and maybe change the section title. General fiction, poetry should be sub-forum to the general and or maybe merge poetry and general together, but change it to creative writing. Both rex and lil bitchiness both still mod that..and lose the multi author and hp fanfiction areas. art by itself unless you wanna drive more traffic both merging art and signature together with their mods peach and lil bitchiness. and move the rp forums from the bottom maybe in the centre and the comic areas at the bottom maybe. If all the movie franchise is going then the clear out will make the areas that don't get much of a look in these changes could give them needed traffic once more.

I agree with nerfing the Multi Author and HP sections in the fiction area. I had Raz do that in response to a torrent of HP fanfics that hit when the films came out years and years ago. Not necessary now. Same with Multi Author, though really that was a silly idea...

Hey I am posting this thread because I feel it is something that I think should be implemented in the KMC forums.

Now this might belong in the suggestions thread, but I just felt this was important enough to have a thread of it's own, but I totally understand if you merge it with the suggestion thread.

Basically I think it would be nice if a sub-forum was dedicated to movie making. Movies or short movies made by the people here on KMC.

The ideal function of this sub-forum would be that it is a place for people to post video links to their movies that they themselves have made, discuss movies that they are going to make, or have seen by other armature film makers. In short a place for people interested in film making in general.

The reason I am suggesting this is because today I made a thread in the movie forum, the place to apparently discuss "All things Movie related"

In my thread which got closed btw, I was asking if anyone here in KMC would like to contact me if they wanted to help me in my upcoming short movie. I needed a pair of either british or american volunteers to lend their voices for a small role I had written.

This is according to the admin Impediment considered spamming.

Closed thread can be found here, content has however been removed, but in a nutshell it was what I summed up a few lines above.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f2/t534966.html

How on earth this thread of mine was not movie related I don't know. I am making a short movie because that is what I like to do, not selling it or anything, it's just my passion. I then ask in a movie forum which is labeled with "All things Movie related" if anyone wants to be part of my short-movie, and it gets closed for spamming. I just don't understand the logic behind such reasoning.

Obviously it is more fun to be part of making something rather then just being a consumer of things (At least that is true in my case) I was simply looking for some help and offering you guys to be part of something, and who knows perhaps it would lead us to make some work together again in the future.

Point is things like this should be welcomed and looked upon positively, and not viewed as something bad and labeled spamming.

I am very interested in hearing from the rest of you regarding this matter.

Why on earth would you make a separate thread, knowing that it belongs in the suggestions thread?

And something like that is considered spam, as stated in the forum rules - "We generally class SPAM as a website with which the person has a personal interest in, or is not a relevant topic of discussion." That falls under the first.

I am not sure I understand what you mean. website?

p.s Peach. I did say that I thought it belonged in the suggestions thread, but I have seen that there were suggestions threads like my own only with a different subject, like the dr. who one and what not. Same thing, but did not get closed or merged. So I thought it was no big deal thats all. Did not mean to step on anyones toes.

"website?" You, yourself posted the link to such.

Bluesteel, your post/thread linked a website that is not relevant to KMC for your own purposes. This is Spam. Period.

As the Movie Forum Mod, I welcome any and all topics movie related, but rules are rules.

You spammed.

I closed your thread.

I encourage you to look for potential voice actors elsewhere, since we at KMC do not welcome such topics.

Impediment that is a downright lie and you know it. I posted an explanation for what I was doing and why I needed some voice actors, and I then gave up my EMAIL address, and that was THE only thing which I posted except simple text explaining what I was doing. How is an ordinary email address a website? It is something you copy and paste for your email program or on your preferred email site.

And why would KMC not welcome me looking for voice actors here?.

I did state it was only for fun, sorta like a hobby, amateur work you know. I aint looking for the next Morgan Freeman or anything, simply a person with an american or British accent. Now that is a movie related subject; voice acting for a movie. "All things movie related" yeah?

Now to get back to my suggestion, I don't see why KMC should not have it's own real movie forum, what I mean by that is movies made by us the members, discussions about movie making, technical stuff, editing, directing, recommending which cameras to use, acting tips, you name it. Because ultimately this is a movie forum.

I mean there are forums for General Fiction, and also the Artwork Forum, people make stuff themselves, show it off on the forum here, discuss it etc. In a movie forum I think it would be obvious to have a sub-forum dedicated to well, movies! I think it is safe to say that movies is something that most of the members here on KMC share a common love/interested/passion (you decide what to call it) for.
Now some of these are bound to be interested in making movies themselves, not just watching what other people have done, but to create themselves!

Now lets be completely honest here. Out of the mass which consists of KMC members, don't you think just as many if not more are actually somewhat interested in movie making of some sorts, or enjoys watching movies that are not multi million projects, or perhaps is involved in movie making rather then something like artwork?

Again: You posted spam. Your accusations of me as a liar are false.

Whether or not you can accept that you are a spammer, you did spam. Our rules at KMC specify so.

If you do it again, action will be taken.

I strongly suggest you drop this issue and leave it be.

A Global Moderator has been notified.

""website?" You, yourself posted the link to such. Bluesteel, your post/thread linked a website that is not relevant to KMC for your own purposes. This is Spam. Period.

I have done absolutely nothing wrong if you say that posting a link to a website is wrong.

My original thread in the movie discussion forum did not have a link to a website, it did however contain my email and regular text. When you then say that; my post linked a website when it did not, you are lying. Making my accusations of you true.

Therefore my accusations are true of you. Why can't you admit that you were wrong? That you mistook my email for a website, you saw my email address and jumped to the conclusion that it was a website.

Me asking for some help for my shortmovie can be viewed as the same thing someone asks for help for a signature or whatever.

I also got the original message I wrote in a word document, there is no single mention of a website, only curiosity if anybody would be willing to lend their voices voluntarily to a movie, why is this a bad thing?

And why are you taking this hostile approach to me? As I mentioned someone made a thread here for a dr.who board and no one shut that down, even having mods replying to these threads, beverly hills and what not else. So thats why I thought when it came to a "new sub forum" subject it was ok to make a new thread.

Again a sub-forum where people interested in making movies of any caliber could gather, share their thoughts, ask for advise, or help, perhaps like minded ppl could even meet up and work on a movie together aswell.

Such a board would be very much appreciated. That would be a perfect place for such a thread.