no, magneto couldn't control gladiator's blood... he can control the iron in the blood... that is, assuming gladiator is made up of the same chemicals as humans. gladiator still whomps magneto's ass. and btw, all you guys might wanna take it easy on crissyg. who do you guys think you f*cking are to speak like that?! this is a comic book discussion not a comic book quiz bee.
Well, from my perspective I feel Gladiator would win as well, all reason and logic seem to coincide with the caped alien BUT reason and logicality would do the same for a battle with the hulk and Glad and look what happened...
Glad "would" win according to comparison upon powers and versatality alone BUT Magneto's a Marvel legend and remember that Glad is a mocked character, so in a nutshell Magneto is most likely to win "if this fight ever happened". Screw circumstances and what "should" happen, Marvel writers are going to find some kind of way for Gladiator to go down..and it would serve as another blow to one Kal-EL in the process.
Even though Im a big Imperial Guard fan, and Gladiator is one of my favorite Marvel characters, Im gonna have to go with Magneto.
Gladiator should be portrayed ALOT tougher than he is in the comics, there are too many characters that get the best of him.
I tried to collect as many titles as I can with Imperial guard characters in there, and I can only remember Gladiator winning out in a few of them compared to all of the times I seen him loose.
Of the top of my head I remember him taking out Hyperion (i think he choked him out) and also Wolverine and Beast were on the recieving end of a Gladiator whooping.
But I seen him get beat by- Thunderstrike (while he was Thor),Living Lighting,Cannonball, Cassandra Nova, and He was a down right weak pathetic looser in the Imperial Guard mini series.
So If it were up to actual powers vs powers Id say Glad. If it were up to Marvel writers, definatly Magneto.
Excuse me while I go kick his but now...
That's exactly (although not verbatum) what I I stated previously.
Sure Gladiator has the "supermanish" edge if your will, the versatility, the logic, the incredible cosmic-like strength etc..etc..BUT remeber Gladiator is Marvel's superman which is equal to the Mortal Kombat crew doing a parody of Ryu or Capcom's mockery of Ryo from Art of Fighting with Dan(any gaming vets?)
So you WILL proceed to see Gladiator pummeled by (lets say) spider-man or Captain America..Screw logic and reasoning, it's all about hurting Superman as much as possible to make him look weak as opposed to Marvel heroes. Don't put your chips on Gladiator, he's a character destined to be outwitted, outmatched and just plain out beaten to a pulp when approaching a hero with some stroke(large fanbase)..
After agree with you SarkasticOJ and USAgent. He should win against Magneto but seeing as Magneto is a marvel legend and Gladiator is clone copy of Superman who they used to mock, Magneto by the Marvel writers help, will find a way to defeat Gladiator!
Seeing as Cannonball a very week character got the best of him and made him look stupid, a popular character like Magneto would embarrass Gladiator
It wouldn't be too much of an embarassment. Dr. Polaris is a lamed down Magneto clone and he WRECKED Superman using all of Magneto's standard tricks. Gladiator is a lamed down Superman clone. If DC believes that a Magneto clone could beat their flagship character, then it's perfectly reasonable that the real deal could be a Superman clone without taking any shots at DC.
Gladiator has bled before, so that means Magneto could screw up his blood. Gladiator has a nervous system, which means Magneto could disrupt it. Gladiator has fairly weak mental defenses, which means Magneto can put him to sleep, cut off Gladtiator's access to his tactile TK, or erase his mind entirely. Or, with his latest upgrade, Magneto could just dump Gladiator into a black hole. Too many options here for Magneto. Gladiator would have to speed blitz Magneto before he gets his shields up to have a chance.
And in the end, Gladiator is just Gladiator.
Originally posted by demigawd
It wouldn't be too much of an embarassment. Dr. Polaris is a lamed down Magneto clone and he WRECKED Superman using all of Magneto's standard tricks. Gladiator is a lamed down Superman clone. If DC believes that a Magneto clone could beat their flagship character, then it's perfectly reasonable that the real deal could be a Superman clone without taking any shots at DC.Gladiator has bled before, so that means Magneto could screw up his blood. Gladiator has a nervous system, which means Magneto could disrupt it. Gladiator has fairly weak mental defenses, which means Magneto can put him to sleep, cut off Gladtiator's access to his tactile TK, or erase his mind entirely. Or, with his latest upgrade, Magneto could just dump Gladiator into a black hole. Too many options here for Magneto. Gladiator would have to speed blitz Magneto before he gets his shields up to have a chance.
And in the end, Gladiator is just Gladiator.
...yeah, I agree with your illogical statements of this fight. 😘
Gladiator isn't a human; how do you know he has iron in his blood? Furthermore, has Magneto ever screwed with a person's blood or nervous system before? ...cause if he hasn't and is attempting to try something new, Gladiator slams into Magnus at a speed faster than light and above Class 100 strength. Magneto would die right away. As for his shield, it isn't going to hold long against someone flying fast than light speed and slamming with the force greater than a Class 100. And before you say Gladiator doesn't do stuff like that, well neither does Magneto. Heck, has he ever done what you said he could? When?
And your example of Superman >= Gladiator getting beaten by Polaris < Magneto isn't a valid argument. This is a straight up fight with no prep. It's not like one side plans things and then they fight.
As for Marvel writting it, like Marvel has anything to do with a forum fight. You think these fights are posted to debate whether a character would win BASED ON Marvel's permission or likely decision of who would win? Please - if that's the case then please find another message board to post on - this isn't about who Marvel would likely allow to win.
Originally posted by Beyonder
...yeah, I agree with your illogical statements of this fight. 😘
Good, I'm glad we're in agreement.
Gladiator isn't a human; how do you know he has iron in his blood?
Because his blood is red (he's bled before). That means it's oxidized, that means it has iron in it.
Furthermore, has Magneto ever screwed with a person's blood or nervous system before?
Don't read much Magneto, huh? Screwing with the iron in someone's blood is generally attack option #2 after the usual "throw metal at them" technique. It gets more sophisicated after that. It's the pretty normal routine. I'm surprised you're even asking about that.
As for the nervous system trick, Magneto has created a blanket blast when he first manifested his powers with the force of a nuclear weapon and, I quote, "disintegrated anything with a nervous system instantly". DISINTEGRATED.
Additionally, he's affected the same electrical impulses that guide the nervous system in someone's brain to mind control them (Warren's parents) and to erase their minds entirely (Odekirk).
...cause if he hasn't and is attempting to try something new...
Which he isn't.
, Gladiator slams into Magnus at a speed faster than light and above Class 100 strength.
*shrug* Magneto has taken worse and held up just fine.
Magneto would die right away. As for his shield, it isn't going to hold long against someone flying fast than light speed and slamming with the force greater than a Class 100.
*shrug* Magneto has taken worse and held up just fine.
And before you say Gladiator doesn't do stuff like that, well neither does Magneto.
I quoted examples. You do the same, then we'll talk.
Heck, has he ever done what you said he could? When?
See above.
And your example of Superman >= Gladiator getting beaten by Polaris < Magneto isn't a valid argument. This is a straight up fight with no prep. It's not like one side plans things and then they fight.
What kind of one-sided prep did Polaris have in his fight against Superman? It's the exact same comparison because the same tricks and tactics that one applied would be applied to greater effect with the other.
As for Marvel writting it, like Marvel has anything to do with a forum fight. You think these fights are posted to debate whether a character would win BASED ON Marvel's permission or likely decision of who would win? Please - if that's the case then please find another message board to post on - this isn't about who Marvel would likely allow to win.
Hey, we agree on something else.
In our Universe, so much time is spent on observation of the destruction of things, Stars in general, that no time is spent on the observation of the Universes success.
Gladiator is the story of what happens to a large sized star when it finishes off healthy.
Unlike Surfer, Gladiator could punch through Mag. shields with his own strength, plus he has that techo. suit that manages environment: time/space/dimension.
The cool thing bout Gladiator is he can do it all on his own and his suit gives him power beyond the known. Somehow it is able to connect to the user and add its tech to his ability and vise versa.
What other heros in marvel have supersuits
Originally posted by demigawd
[quote]Good, I'm glad we're in agreement.Because his blood is red (he's bled before). That means it's oxidized, that means it has iron in it.
??? Yeah, and you think 'cause it's red and therefore oxidized AS YOU BELIEVE then Magnus can screw Kallark up? Thanos has bleed red blood, you saying Magneto can screw Thanos' blood as well? Or Thor since he's bleed red blood as well? How's about Beta Ray Bill? I guess anyone who's blood is red, Magneto can screw with huh?
Don't read much Magneto, huh? Screwing with the iron in someone's blood is generally attack option #2 after the usual "throw metal at them" technique. It gets more sophisicated after that. It's the pretty normal routine. I'm surprised you're even asking about that.As for the nervous system trick, Magneto has created a blanket blast when he first manifested his powers with the force of a nuclear weapon and, I quote, "disintegrated anything with a nervous system instantly". DISINTEGRATED.
Really? Then why didn't he do that with Apocalypse? Maybe his bouts with Thor? I guess he killed Doom with that one didn't he? Thanos, Hulk, Juggernaut, Holocaust, Tyrant, Magus, Adam Warlock, etc. all have a nervous system, I guess they would get their nervous system disintegrated instantly as well if they messed up with Mighty Magnus. 😆
Seriously, Gladiator is cosmic level. Don't compare him a regular human - he's far above that. He didn't become leader of the Shi'Ar empire's top squad for being a weakling. Heck, I have doubts that Magnus can affect Holocaust or Hulk much less cosmic level guys like Kallark. For him to do such a feat, he'd have to exert alot of his powers - it's not just a whim for he and anyone with a nervous system would go down. Furthermore, how do you even know Kallark's nerve system is like ours?
Additionally, he's affected the same electrical impulses that guide the nervous system in someone's brain to mind control them (Warren's parents) and to erase their minds entirely (Odekirk).
Nice to know he can affect regular joes. Now has he done this to mutants, high level superbeings like Black Bolt or Thing, cosmics like Quasar, Thor, or Hyperion? Just cause he's messed with regular humans, he's still yet to show he can mess with high level superbeings much less Gladiator.
You assume too much.
*shrug* Magneto has taken worse and held up just fine.
Worse being what? Don't just say worse. And how many times has Magneto taken a punch from a Class 100 and brushed it off?
Gladiator is above Class 100 and moves faster than light.
*shrug* Magneto has taken worse and held up just fine.
*laughs* Worse being what again? Gladiator moves asteroids and smashed a small planet to pieces in three punch.
What kind of one-sided prep did Polaris have in his fight against Superman? It's the exact same comparison because the same tricks and tactics that one applied would be applied to greater effect with the other.
Yeah, because Polaris didn't know who he was fighting? In a straight up fight, Superman wouldn't get wrecked by Polaris.
Hey, we agree on something else.
...what? That you have no argument? I agree.