Superman vs Gladiator.

Started by Nihilist52 pages

Carver's Superman hate is legendary

Originally posted by leonidas
so . . . make with the proof already! you keep crying on-panel feats are better for gladiator. so show it already or shut the hell up. 🙂

Strengthwise Superman's never come close to destroying a planet with his physical blows. Against Zod was his best effort. Speedwise Superman's never definitively moved at 100x FTL without fanboy extrapolation. And durability-wise, recent Supes was KO'd by a supernova explosion, while Gladiator has tanked such things without effort.

Originally posted by leonidas
while you're at it, explain how superman doesn't win a clean 10/10 if he decides to use torquasm-vo in the battle.

I think it was Geoff Johns who said that as far as he's concerned, T-vo will no longer be used as a part of Superman's powerset.

I don't have the writer interview, though, so if anyone else knows what I'm talking about...lol

^ nice post

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Didn't Superman spend thousands of years together with Diana, locked in another dimension.

Yes. I think they were fighting a war with Thor and Norse pantheon.

Originally posted by Enyalus

Strengthwise Superman's never come close to destroying a planet with his physical blows.

most overrated feat ever in the forum. seriously. we don't know:

1. how much damage he did on his initial charge
2. how BIG the 'planet' is--ball of rock looks more appropriate
3. we don't even know for sure how many times he hits it--it's shown like 3, or something, but he was going nuts so it's easy to imagine he hits it several times.

it's a silly feat that no one can match because no other characters throw a tantrum and take it out on a planet somewhere. really doesn't prove anything. at all.

Speedwise Superman's never definitively moved at 100x FTL without fanboy extrapolation.

can't compare feats like that either since dc's speed operates differently. often as not breaking c in dc means entering the speedforce. it's comparing apples and oranges. sometimes extrapolation is required to compare speeds in the 2 universes.

And durability-wise, recent Supes was KO'd by a supernova explosion, while Gladiator has tanked such things without effort.

please. superman's held a friggin black hole in his hand. his durability is undeniable (too many feats to really bother with). if you truly believe glad's is more durable than superman then . . . shrug

I think it was Geoff Johns who said that as far as he's concerned, T-vo will no longer be used as a part of Superman's powerset.

that would be interesting i guess, but since it hasn't been terminated for certain yet, and it HAS been used multiple times so is still an option gladiator could simply not overcome. i'm not even close to sold on gladiator's skill>superman. i'd love to see some signs of just how 'skilled' he is, because he fights a lot like everybody else in comics. some people seem to want to turn him into iron fist or something . . .

Originally posted by Juntai
He thinks everyone beats Superman. lol.

Naah, I just think wwh, mags, and gladiator could beat supes. Forgot about silver surfer, thor, and thanos.

Originally posted by Enyalus

Strengthwise Superman's never come close to destroying a planet with his physical blows. Against Zod was his best effort. Speedwise Superman's never definitively moved at 100x FTL without fanboy extrapolation. And durability-wise, recent Supes was KO'd by a supernova explosion, while Gladiator has tanked such things without effort.

I think it was Geoff Johns who said that as far as he's concerned, T-vo will no longer be used as a part of Superman's powerset.

I don't have the writer interview, though, so if anyone else knows what I'm talking about...lol [/B]

Good post

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, I just think wwh, mags, and gladiator could beat supes. Forgot about silver surfer, thor, and thanos.

Three of those are ridiculous.

Try to figure out which ones.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Three of those are ridiculous.

Try to figure out which ones.

Tell me which ones and I'll give you a reason on why they'll beat supes.

Originally posted by carver9
Tell me which ones and I'll give you a reason on why they'll beat supes.

And ruin your weekend activity?

Not a chance.

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, I just think wwh, mags, and gladiator could beat supes. Forgot about silver surfer, thor, and thanos.
I believe you also once argued for Cannonball, and another time for Wolverine, and you said regular Hulk beats Superman 10/10 before too.

Originally posted by Juntai
I believe you also once argued for Cannonball, and another time for Wolverine, and you said regular Hulk beats Superman 10/10 before too.

I did say a cannonball using his powers to the best would beat him since he does absorb kinetic energy and stalemated the fury.

If I said wolverine I must said it when I was drunk. I never said regular hulk but I did say that hulk could pull some wins.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=8817474&highlight=carver9+userid%3A72540#post8817474
and thats just a small example..

Originally posted by Juntai
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=8817474&highlight=carver9+userid%3A72540#post8817474
and thats just a small example..

Just wondering how Thor taking out Superman is an example of unreasonable Superman hate??

The rest are examples of Carver's retardness.

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Originally posted by Juntai
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=8817474&highlight=carver9+userid%3A72540#post8817474
and thats just a small example..
lulz

Originally posted by Juntai
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=8817474&highlight=carver9+userid%3A72540#post8817474
and thats just a small example..

Majority of those things that I said was when I first joined KMC and I was drunk half of the time and every one of those post that I put up was plain stupid.

That was some of my first post, how about you find something up to date that I said without back up.

I can use the same things against you, superman beating thanos, superman beating odin, superman beating monarch, and superman prime.

I still believe cannonball could beat supes, the rest is a change of heart and basically more knowledge on reading more comics.

Originally posted by leonidas
most overrated feat ever in the forum. seriously. we don't know:

1. how much damage he did on his initial charge
2. how BIG the 'planet' is--ball of rock looks more appropriate
3. we don't even know for sure how many times he hits it--it's shown like 3, or something, but he was going nuts so it's easy to imagine he hits it several times.


There was no 'initial charge'. He's shown flying down to the planet. Then he stands still on the surface of the planet and begins punching.

Three strikes were shown on panel. Why would anyone assume more unless they're intentionally attempting to degrade the feat?

Originally posted by leonidas
it's a silly feat that no one can match because no other characters throw a tantrum and take it out on a planet somewhere. really doesn't prove anything. at all.

Really? Because when Lex got elected president Superman threw a temper tantrum and split a moon of Saturn's (I think) in half.

Glads has also moved a moon-sized spaceship, while Current Supes proved unable to stop a 70 mile long spaceship by himself. 😬

Originally posted by leonidas
can't compare feats like that either since dc's speed operates differently. often as not breaking c in dc means entering the speedforce. it's comparing apples and oranges. sometimes extrapolation is required to compare speeds in the 2 universes.

There've been plenty of commentary on Superman's speed from the writers and narrative inside the stories themselves. Everything from Superman admitting he can't break light speed, other characters saying he's not sure if Superman can break light speed, saying he has to concentrate and focus tremendously before breaking light speed, to him being able to 'travel across the galaxy at the speed of sound'...notice, I didn't use any of that low feat nonsense to make my point.

Originally posted by leonidas
please. superman's held a friggin black hole in his hand. his durability is undeniable (too many feats to really bother with). if you truly believe glad's is more durable than superman then . . . shrug

It was a miniature black hole, about 3 inches across maybe. And he admitted he couldn't hold it for very long. Surfer can battle in an actual black hole, but I think Gladiator's more durable than him, too.

Superman's also been one-shotted far more times than Gladiator has been.

Originally posted by leonidas
that would be interesting i guess, but since it hasn't been terminated for certain yet, and it HAS been used multiple times so is still an option gladiator could simply not overcome.

Find me the last time it was used. 😛

Superman 8/10

I've got time this week. A Superman vs Gladiator battlezone, Enyalus ?