Originally posted by Mindset
You're the one that was trying to back up your statement, if you weren't going to do that why did you keep posting?
Because I don't feel like expositing two years of astro-physics lessons into a comic book versus forum.
The fact that it is a real theory and I know it is enough for me. I don't argue with people about things they don't know about.
Originally posted by Private Pion
Because I don't feel like expositing two years of astro-physics lessons into a comic book versus forum.The fact that it is a real theory and I know it is enough for me. I don't argue with people about things they don't know about.
Yea, I'm not sure you get how this whole debating thing works.
Anyway, next time just say you don't have anything to back up what you're saying, or even that you wont post anything to back it up. That would save us both some time.
Originally posted by Mindset
I'm not sure how posting one link is equivalent to giving me an astro physics lesson, w/e gets you out of it, I guess.Yea, I'm not sure you get how this whole debating thing works.
Anyway, next time just say you don't have anything to back up what you're saying, or even that you wont post anything to back it up. That would save us both some time.
Well excuse me for using books and articles and not the internet to do research. I don't feel like wading through the internet to prove to a non-peer something I already know.
Originally posted by darthgooberMcDuffie had Superman go ftl, in a one-shot issue of Superman he did a while back. Remember him taking Pa to see Kepler's Supernova? That's 20,000 light-years from Earth.
My scans don't state that strength isn't a factor, they state that there's something else at work. Again, I can totally understand how someone might interpret the scans I post to mean that strength's not a factor, but now you're arguing over interpretation of the scans and my opinion is just as valid as yours on the matter. You believe what you want, and I'll believe what I want, but I'll continue to post my scans as evidence until a rule is passed against posting scans from Byrne. And I can almost guarantee that such a policy will never be put into place because it means people will start shouting for similar policies instituted against Loeb, Enis, or any other author that they don't like and can come up with a half assed reason supported by two scans for their work to be considered completely rectonned.Let me try to point out what's wrong with what you're wanting to do by throwing out feats from the Bryne's era using a slightly different example. Supes has FTL feats to his credit, right? Well Mcduffie says that Supes can't even hit lightspeed without entering hyperspace, and if we use your system of throwing out everything that might be rectonned, it means that if Mcduffie ever gets around to putting Supes using hyperspace in a comic we'll have to throw out EVERY single speed feat of Supes's from before Mcduffie took over since the nature of Supes's speed has been effectively rectonned. And it doesn't matter if later writers of Supes give him speed feats that justify the FTL feats right along the same lines as the Pre-Mcduffie feats(just as later writers attributed Supes's powers to telekinesis in a manner similar to Byrne) because according to the standard you're espousing, those feats will still have been rectonned at one point and will therefore never be applicable again. Now do you see the problem here? You posted two scans that kinda contradict the scans I posted and think it's enough to throw out the whole period, but no one in their right mind is going to agree with a precedent that would allow TWO instances from Mcduffie to alter everything about the character.
Unless they've rectonned the actual story that my scans took place in, it means that Supes still moved that ship with his strength being canceled out by the nullifiers. That means that my scans are still valid evidence of Supes's flight being a potential factor when he's moving something while flying. And if you're assuming that the story's been rectonned out of continuity just because Byrne was the writer, it means that ALL of Bryne's stories have been rectonned out of continuity(so my example of Matrix is valid).
Also, McDuffie won't 'get around to it', because he got kicked off of the book. 😉
lol.
Originally posted by Juntai
Yeah, the same guy did suggest a single chicken-wing manuever with a little pressure could tear off Silver Surfer's arm, I guess.
I'll never understand why he gets such a good rep. JLU was nice and all, but that was because of action and cameos, not great character development (bar a few exceptions).
JLA's basically f*cked now. Wein is taking over, and he's meh at best. Benes has pissed off to go draw Batman, though in fairness, his work in his first issue was gorgeous imo.
JLA needs a serious injection of life.
Originally posted by Juntai
McDuffie had Superman go ftl, in a one-shot issue of Superman he did a while back. Remember him taking Pa to see Kepler's Supernova? That's 20,000 light-years from Earth.Also, McDuffie won't 'get around to it', because he got kicked off of the book. 😉
lol.
The point still stands though, as another potential McDuffie could be hired at any time.
Originally posted by MindsetDoesn't it just feel great. I love it when a break a poster done to the point of concession. I savor it.
Right.In the words of the Quan:
Concession accepted.
Originally posted by BadabingTen times cooler. Kal's a real goodey goodey.
Quan, just stop. facepalm
Originally posted by AllanklesYeah, I don't like most of my heroes as black and white as superman. He is as stale as they come.
To take a page off of Count Adhemar: "Not in this world!"
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yeah, I don't like most of my heroes as black and white as superman. He is as stale as they come.
Supes is honest to himself, and he isn't at all black and white - shows how much you know about the character.
Glads is more black and white than Supes.
With Kal-El there's always plenty of wiggle room for reconciliation and reevaluation. He'll exhaust all the morally upright options if he can, and is not averse to moral ambiguity when it's necessary.
Supes is definitely the more developed and complex character.
Although WoK is doing a pretty good job on Glads. 🙂
I still like the way Glads is portrayed more often than how Supes is. Except, like I said, when Austen writes him. 'Cause he makes Supes crack jokes while he kicks your ass, and that's just the epitome of cool.