Originally posted by batdude123
Of course you don't understand. You try to undercut Superman every chance you get, and you hang all over Gladiator's nuts.
I'm not trying to undercut anything, I just wanted to know why because supes isnt faster, he isnt stronger, he isnt as durable or more durable; he basically doesnt have any kind of advantages in this fight.
If this makes you feel better, Sentry is one of my favorite characters and I consider him to be a very powerful character but I give glads a 8 or 9/10 over him.
I just asked a question, didnt want the kind of response you gave.
Originally posted by Mindset
What is a double black hole?
When two black holes approach each other, they create a pocket of bent time and space, eventually this pocket narrows into a tiny corridor, operating as a single black hole.
Superman was INSIDE of one of these, subject to not only the gravitational stresses of two black holes but also the time and space bending effects (which lead to Superman appearing to be two Supermen merged into one, and the merging of his mind with another alien in the double black hole with him).
Originally posted by Mindset
You made that up, friend.
No, I didn't, captain passive agressive. It's been one of the theories as to what happens when several black holes interact (as they increase in size, something which if they simply merged wouldn't happen) for quite some time. The comic in question runs with the theory as true, and thus, bagabing, badaboom.
Originally posted by Private PionShow me proof or I'll show you the door.
No, I didn't, captain passive agressive. It's been one of the theories as to what happens when several black holes interact (as they increase in size, something which if they simply merged wouldn't happen) for quite some time. The comic in question runs with the theory as true, and thus, bagabing, badaboom.
I'm never passive aggressive, friend.
That is a trait of lesser men.
Originally posted by Philosophía
The scans that you have now state that while in flight, strength is not a factor in moving/lifting/pulling things which has been pulled out of continuity. You based your entire argument on this scans, and since they aren't applicable to current Superman, your stance and thus your mythbust are irrelevant. I can't put it in any simpler terms and I've repeated this so many times, my hand hurts. This discussion has been over for a few posts now, and I'm not about to go repeating the same thing over.and.over.again. Your use of the Supergirl example makes me want to e-cry. facepalmYou don't seem to understand simple things. Very simple. It's like I'm arguing with Quanchi/Carver only there's actually coherence in sentences, if not logic. Something was presented in the Byrne era, on which you base your entire argument on. After that era (and since then, there have been quite a few reboots -zero hour and infinite crisis being the major ones-) what was stated there was never mentioned again, and one important thing that just doesn't seem to sink in, there is on-panel proof that what was stated there is not true anymore. As in pulled out of continuity. As not applicable to current Superman Now, you're somehow saying that you're still using those scans because, well, you've heard from Juntai that Superman uses telekinesis while moving things, and thus, those scans are somewhat in agreeance.. with the scans you're using right now, which state that strength is not a factor in Superman moving things in air, eventough as I proved it is. I feel like my eyes bleed if I read another one of your leaps of logic. The Supergirl example is not applicable since there is nothing that directly contradicts it, unlike the case we have here. Hell, this is obviously such a bad example, that I shouldn't even be pointing it out.
Let me try to point out what's wrong with what you're wanting to do by throwing out feats from the Bryne's era using a slightly different example. Supes has FTL feats to his credit, right? Well Mcduffie says that Supes can't even hit lightspeed without entering hyperspace, and if we use your system of throwing out everything that might be rectonned, it means that if Mcduffie ever gets around to putting Supes using hyperspace in a comic we'll have to throw out EVERY single speed feat of Supes's from before Mcduffie took over since the nature of Supes's speed has been effectively rectonned. And it doesn't matter if later writers of Supes give him speed feats that justify the FTL feats right along the same lines as the Pre-Mcduffie feats(just as later writers attributed Supes's powers to telekinesis in a manner similar to Byrne) because according to the standard you're espousing, those feats will still have been rectonned at one point and will therefore never be applicable again. Now do you see the problem here? You posted two scans that kinda contradict the scans I posted and think it's enough to throw out the whole period, but no one in their right mind is going to agree with a precedent that would allow TWO instances from Mcduffie to alter everything about the character.
Unless they've rectonned the actual story that my scans took place in, it means that Supes still moved that ship with his strength being canceled out by the nullifiers. That means that my scans are still valid evidence of Supes's flight being a potential factor when he's moving something while flying. And if you're assuming that the story's been rectonned out of continuity just because Byrne was the writer, it means that ALL of Bryne's stories have been rectonned out of continuity(so my example of Matrix is valid).
Originally posted by darthgoober
My scans don't state that strength isn't a factor, they state that there's something else at work. Again, I can totally understand how someone might interpret the scans I post to mean that strength's not a factor, but now you're arguing over interpretation of the scans and my opinion is just as valid as yours on the matter. You believe what you want, and I'll believe what I want, but I'll continue to post my scans as evidence until a rule is passed against posting scans from Byrne. And I can almost guarantee that such a policy will never be put into place because it means people will start shouting for similar policies instituted against Loeb, Enis, or any other author that they don't like and can come up with a half assed reason supported by two scans for their work to be considered completely rectonned.Let me try to point out what's wrong with what you're wanting to do by throwing out feats from the Bryne's era using a slightly different example. Supes has FTL feats to his credit, right? Well Mcduffie says that Supes can't even hit lightspeed without entering hyperspace, and if we use your system of throwing out everything that might be rectonned, it means that if Mcduffie ever gets around to putting Supes using hyperspace in a comic we'll have to throw out EVERY single speed feat of Supes's from before Mcduffie took over since the nature of Supes's speed has been effectively rectonned. And it doesn't matter if later writers of Supes give him speed feats that justify the FTL feats right along the same lines as the Pre-Mcduffie feats(just as later writers attributed Supes's powers to telekinesis in a manner similar to Byrne) because according to the standard you're espousing, those feats will still have been rectonned at one point and will therefore never be applicable again. Now do you see the problem here? You posted two scans that kinda contradict the scans I posted and think it's enough to throw out the whole period, but no one in their right mind is going to agree with a precedent that would allow TWO instances from Mcduffie to alter everything about the character.
Unless they've rectonned the actual story that my scans took place in, it means that Supes still moved that ship with his strength being canceled out by the nullifiers. That means that my scans are still valid evidence of Supes's flight being a potential factor when he's moving something while flying. And if you're assuming that the story's been rectonned out of continuity just because Byrne was the writer, it means that ALL of Bryne's stories have been rectonned out of continuity(so my example of Matrix is valid).
damn good post if you ask me and trust me, he wont have a come back for this one.
Originally posted by Mindset
Show me proof or I'll show you the door.I'm never passive aggressive, friend.
That is a trait of lesser men.
Are you kidding? Almost every post you make is passive agressive. Grow some balls and lose the passive or learn some courtesy and lose the agressive.
Regardless, here. If you wanted proof that it's a genuine theory, here.
Originally posted by Private PionDry you tears lil fella, it'll be alright.
Are you kidding? Almost every post you make is passive agressive. Grow some balls and lose the passive or learn some courtesy and lose the agressive.Regardless, here. If you wanted proof that it's a genuine theory, here.
Can you post a link to an actually article, I'm not looking through google for you.
