Gladiator has trained for combat all his life, superman has not. Gladiators strength can increase the more he focus on killing superman, supermans strength will not increase at all. Gladiator is a natural born killer, superman is not. Gladiators punches have been shown to destroy planets, supermans has not. Superman will bring nothing to the table that gladiator has not seen. This fight will come down to years of honing combat skills and a natural nature to kill without remorse. Fighting skills goes to gladiator, killer nature goes to gladiator, punching/striking power goes to gladiator. Gladiator wins.
Originally posted by JBL
Gladiator has trained for combat all his life, superman has not. Gladiators strength can increase the more he focus on killing superman, supermans strength will not increase at all. Gladiator is a natural born killer, superman is not. Gladiators punches have been shown to destroy planets, supermans has not. Superman will bring nothing to the table that gladiator has not seen. This fight will come down to years of honing combat skills and a natural nature to kill without remorse. Fighting skills goes to gladiator, killer nature goes to gladiator, punching/striking power goes to gladiator. Gladiator wins.
Being trained or experience means absolutely nothing in comics nor in real life. It's all about showings. Superman has all the superior feats than Gladiator (including strength feats far beyond busting a planet with fists). Superman fights smarter and more efficiently than Gladiator (can multitask his powers nicely). Superman has abilities that Gladiator doesn't even have (intangibility, pressure points, etc).
The only advantage Glads has is not holding back in the beginning while Supes holds back. But Supes would stop holding back before he would ever lose to Gladiator. So Superman wins every time but not so easily.
Originally posted by h1a8Training and experience makes ALL the difference. The more you have, the better you get, ask batman, captain america and Wonder woman. Superman does not have feats above busting a planet. Intangibility and pressure points?? Gladiator is not human. Superman can stop holding back all he wants and he will still be the same, that has been proven countless times. Gladiator has more advantages over superman than you know. Hyperion said it best when he noted that gladiator was far more skilled in combat than him. Now tell me how did gladiator win?? Gladiator wins against superman.
Being trained or experience means absolutely nothing in comics nor in real life. It's all about showings. Superman has all the superior feats than Gladiator (including strength feats far beyond busting a planet with fists). Superman fights smarter and more efficiently than Gladiator (can multitask his powers nicely). Superman has abilities that Gladiator doesn't even have (intangibility, pressure points, etc).The only advantage Glads has is not holding back in the beginning while Supes holds back. But Supes would stop holding back before he would ever lose to Gladiator. So Superman wins every time but not so easily.
Originally posted by h1a8
Being trained or experience means absolutely nothing in comics nor in real life. It's all about showings. Superman has all the superior feats than Gladiator (including strength feats far beyond busting a planet with fists).
That is such a stupid, flawed statement.
You talk about Superman's strength feats, which are beyond busting a planet with fists like it makes any sense. No, it doesn't.
Comics are not real life, that we all understand, even peasants like Darkone and abhilegend, but even for comic books some stuff simply applies.
What I always like to say is:
A bodybuilder has more strength than a karate master, so that bodybuilder will be able to benchpress more weight. Does that mean, that the bodybuilder can also destroy a layer of bricks the way a karate fighter would do it? Hell no, because the right technique, experience and so on is needed to put that much force behind the impact. It has NOTHING to do with strength.
So judging by the showings Gladiator has the clear damage output advantage against Superman, since Gladiator has destroyed planets with punches while Superman NEVER has.
Superman's superior strength would only help him, if he would restrain Gladiator. If he could choke him out, since in theory Gladiator lacks the strength to break free and hell, maybe even the speed to prevent it from happening.
But standing in front of each other and simply punching? Gladiator would destroy Superman, since Superman would not be able to take multiple planet busting punches to the face like it's nothing.
Superman has never destroyed planets? What is he doing here?
Destroys a planet by tossing joker on it.
Also superman wasn't getting bigger, Joker was compressing the whole universe to a point of infinite gravity, so its a planet destroying feat.
Using planet destroying as a benchmark is stupid anyway. Smart Drax destroyed two planets and Captain Mar-Vell punched him out.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman has never destroyed planets?
That is correct. The stuff you post is meaningless beyond belief, so stop doing it.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Using planet destroying as a benchmark is stupid anyway. Smart Drax destroyed two planets and Captain Mar-Vell punched him out.
Oh Raj, here you go again with your lowballing to make Superdudebro look better. Why am I not surprised?
1. If we're talking about the same instance (or at least it's the one I know about) Drax stood up directly after and punched Mar-Vell in the face, so there is that.
Getting hit to the ground by someone, who has tons and tons of strength while you weight 250 pounds at max is nothing special.
2. Even if it was a K.O. it doesn't matter at all. The Sentry VS Blue Marvel instance is a great showing, which most of the people don't grasp at all the way they should:
Sentry and Blue Marvel were fighting and Sentry got KOed into the space. So every retard is like: "AHAHAHA, BLUE MARVEL BEAT SENTRY SO BAD!"
But they fail to ignore the fact that Sentry returned and tackled Blue Marvel into the ground. They both stood up and Blue Marvel collapsed, while Sentry was barely able to stand - still standing.
What tells us that? Getting caught happens.
Are you into MMA? Do you know who Anderson Silva is? He was the middleweight champion and it seems to be insanely hard to physically hurt him. He absorbs punches like they're nothing, but in his most recent fight against Chris Weidman he got caught... A punch to the chin and it's sleepy time for you. But does that determine your overall durability? No, it doesn't. Sentry got knocked out, Blue Marvel collapsed due to too much damage.
The same can be used to defend your Superdudebro. Black Adam KOed Superman. Does that mean that Black Adam is stronger? No, just that Superman got cought.
So you brining up the Captain Mar-Vell VS Drax instance, the way it played out ... it's yet again meaningless beyond belief.
Shame on you.
SHAME. ON. YOU.
Originally posted by Warlord
not to mention that superman's feats and history are more than enough to suggest he could do what glads have done (if not more)
If we go by suggesting, then there is nothing to suggest that Superman wouldn't be able to harm Thor at all due to Thor's insane durability feats (the sun-beam, as well the Celestial instance) and that Thor could kill Superman with one lightning blast (which harmed Glory and the Chaos King).
I've seen Superman cutting loose before and it was nothing special at all.
When Marvel characters stop holding back planets are going down. And this is not me being a Marvel fan and putting them above the DC characters. I'm just talking about the collateral damage.
Marvel puts emphasis on striking power and reality warping, while DC puts emphasis on strength and speed.
Originally posted by Warlord
not sure what to make of the above feat. Seems as valid as Thor's serpent feat. But in any case I agree with what you said about the plannet busting benchmark. not to mention that superman's feats and history are more than enough to suggest he could do what glads have done (if not more)
Originally posted by EnzeruOh enzeru. Never change.
That is correct. The stuff you post is meaningless beyond belief, so stop doing it.
Oh Raj, here you go again with your lowballing to make Superdudebro look better. Why am I not surprised?Seriously shut up. You are the very last guy to say something like that.
1. If we're talking about the same instance (or at least it's the one I know about) Drax stood up directly after and punched Mar-Vell in the face, so there is that.Two times and Mar-vell no sold it.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14079720/CaptainMarvel_43_13.JPG.html
Getting hit to the ground by someone, who has tons and tons of strength while you weight 250 pounds at max is nothing special.😂
You are seriously the worst poster here. He was just knocked down here?
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14079715/CaptainMarvel_43_12.JPG.html
2. Even if it was a K.O. it doesn't matter at all.Sure it does.
bitchingGet this sentry bullshit out of here.
What tells us that? Getting caught happens.Again, get this real life science and sentry BS out of here.
Are you into MMA? Do you know who Anderson Silva is? He was the middleweight champion and it seems to be insanely hard to physically hurt him. He absorbs punches like they're nothing, but in his most recent fight against Chris Weidman he got caught... A punch to the chin and it's sleepy time for you. But does that determine your overall durability? No, it doesn't. Sentry got knocked out, Blue Marvel collapsed due to too much damage.
The same can be used to defend your Superdudebro. Black Adam KOed Superman.Never happened.
Does that mean that Black Adam is stronger? No, just that Superman got cought.You don't even know what the **** you're talking about. When did Adam KO superman?
So you brining up the Captain Mar-Vell VS Drax instance, the way it played out ... it's yet again meaningless beyond belief.You are seriously the worst poster ever. No wonder even comicvine banned you.Shame on you.
SHAME. ON. YOU.
Originally posted by Enzeru
If we go by suggesting, then there is nothing to suggest that Superman wouldn't be able to harm Thor at all due to Thor's insane durability feats (the sun-beam, as well the Celestial instance) and that Thor could kill Superman with one lightning blast (which harmed Glory and the Chaos King).I've seen Superman cutting loose before and it was nothing special at all.
When Marvel characters stop holding back planets are going down. And this is not me being a Marvel fan and putting them above the DC characters. I'm just talking about the collateral damage.Marvel puts emphasis on striking power and reality warping, while DC puts emphasis on strength and speed.
Originally posted by Warlord
the planet isn't and single point of gravity clarifies nothing really.
Being a physics student in the past and everything...
Anyway, moving on, as I said it is irrelevant. Supes has this
Good enough for me.