Marvel Universe Hierarchy

Started by Wynndar30 pages

hmmm interesting points...I think it might be the combined power of each race may be equivalent.

Thousands of Watchers would probably give a few dozen Celestials a good battle

Heirarchy of Marvel Multiverse Cosmic Beings
TOAA(true lord of the multiverse)

He who possesses THOTU/True Beyonders(Not sure which is greater)

Living Tribunal

The Infinity Gauntlet

Death/Oblivion(flip sides of the same coin)

Eternity/Infinity(flip sides of the same coin)

Those who wield cosmic cubes.

Full Power Galactus(Part of the Multiversal Balance)

Essential Abstract Entities(Love, Hate, Chaos, Order, Anomaly, etc)

Celestials

Pheonix Force

Watchers/Timekeepers(about the same)

Galactus Normal Power

Cosmic beings(Stranger, Chronos, Eon, etc)

Demons(Mephisto, Satannish, Symm)/Sky Fathers/Dark Gods, Surtur, Cyttorak and the like.

Other Worldly Entities(Dormammu, Strange Matter Creature,etc)

Less important abstracts(Nightmare, D spayre, etc)

hmm pretty good list...I might place Dormammu higher, but he does seem to fluctuate...I think the time keepers might be higher too.

Heirarchy of Mortals(Some of these peeps are said to be immortal because they don't age. But they can be killed, so I'm calling them mortals.)

Tyrant(Tyrant is probably close to Odin Level at his best maybe even greater.)

Uni power wielder

Destroyer(not really a mortal, but around their power levels)

Thanos/Silver Surfer(It depends on the writer as to who's more powerful)

Magus(Seems to be quite amped up since Infinity Wars)

Maelstrom

Galactus's other Heralds(Terrax, Morg, Firelord, etc)

Captain Marvel

Apocolypse

Thor/Beta Ray Thor/Hercules/Gladiator/Ressurrected Drax the Destroyer

Warlock

Juggernaut/Hulk

Wonder Man/Colossus/Thing/

Earth/Kree/and Titan Eternals(like Gilgamesh, Makkari, Starfox, etc)

Asgardians/Olympians(Average Height and Weight)

Elders(yeah I know they're next essentially immortal but they always seem to get their asses kicked by the people above them.)

thas a very accurate list but u shudv put nate and cable in it.
and i know that many people will find this ridiculous but i think that franklin richards could POTENTIALLY, be on par with the tribunal{if u think about it, even as a child he could create altenate UNIVERSES, with nothing more than a single thought, i can only imagine what hes capable of at full potential}

That cosmic list of yours is pretty good indeed

what is accurate about that list?

Originally posted by Wynndar
hmm pretty good list...I might place Dormammu higher, but he does seem to fluctuate...I think the time keepers might be higher too.

Thanks..Now that I think about it, I believe the Watcher's/Timekeepers should probably be one notch higher than the Celestials. Pheonix Force should come right below celestials, before normal power Galactus.

Revised list. Keep in mind this list is based on not just power levels but overall importance in the multiverse as well...

TOAA(True lord of the multiverse)

He who possesses THOTU

True Beyonders

Living Tribunal

The Infinity Gauntlet

Death/Oblivion

Eternity/Infinity

Those who wield cosmic cubes.

Full Power Galactus(Part of the Multiversal Balance)

Essential Abstract Entities(Love, Hate, Chaos, Order, Anomaly, etc)

Timekeepers

Watchers

Celestials

Pheonix Force

Galactus Normal Power

Cosmic beings(Stranger, Chronos, Eon, etc)

Sky Fathers/Dark Gods/Cyttorak/Agammotto and the like.

Demons(Mephisto, Satannish, Symm)

Other Worldly Entities(Dormammu, Strange Matter Creature,etc)

Less important abstracts(Nightmare, D spayre, etc)

Revised Heirarchy of Mortals list. Characters are judged based on overall abilities and not just physical strength(ie. Warlock ranks above Hulk and Juggernaut because he can do much more than use his strength alone.)

Tyrant(Tyrant is probably close to Odin Level at his best maybe even greater.)

Uni power wielder(..in the right hands with a person who really knows how to use its full potential..)

Destroyer(containing only one soul)

Thanos

Silver Surfer(The original as he was meant to be, he really should outclass Thanos...but I'll give Thanos some props as he has continued to build himself up over the years.)

Magus(Seems to be quite amped up since Infinity Wars)

Captain Marvel

Maelstrom

High level Elders(Grandmaster, Gardner, the "original" Champion not the wussified version who gets his ass whupped by She-Hulk..etc..)

Apocolypse(that damb Celestial Tech gives him an edge over alot of peeps IMO)

Galactus's other Heralds(Terrax, Morg, Firelord, etc)

Thor/Beta Ray Thor/Gladiator/Hyperion

Warlock(with soul gem)

Ressurrected Drax the Destroyer

Juggernaut/Hulk/Hercules

Class 100 Earth/Kree/and Titan Eternals(like Gilgamesh..I can't think of any others..)

Class 80-95 Earthers..Wonder Man/Colossus/Thing/Abomination..etc

low level Elders(like Contemplator, Adjudicator, Possessor, etc..)

Regular Asgardians/Olympians(Average Height and Weight)

Keep in mind this list is based on not just power levels but overall importance in the multiverse as well...

Well since we know that watchers are not more powerful than Celestials please tell me how they are more important.

Power doesn't necessarily equal importance my friend...My initial thought was that the Watchers were more important due to the fact that they seem to be the record keeper's of the multiverse, where as the Celestials don't really seem to have much of a purpose.(Or at least they have never fully been explained by Marvel to have one) The watcher's have witnessed the birth of Galactus, who is one of the 3 essential forces that the universe operates on. That makes them pretty important in my book. And to be honest with you, we really don't know how powerful the Watcher's are, the could more powerful than the Celestials, but do to the fact that they are forced not to interfere, we will never really know their true powers.

Aron interferes a lot and he's not much of a threat. I'd say the Celestials have had more of an impact on the universe than the Watchers - see Eternals and Deviants.

And to be honest with you, we really don't know how powerful the Watcher's are, the could more powerful than the Celestials, but do to the fact that they are forced not to interfere, we will never really know their true powers.

The watchers would concede to the Celestials being more powerful. Why? Because they are. Whocares if the watchers watch stuff, big whup. The Celestials actually make their mark aswell as possess more power.

Chalk that one up to more importance and higher on the list.

The Watchers and Celestials essentially fulfill opposite roles in the Universe. They are both about the same age. Like I said before, I think the combined power of the Watchers is equal to the combined power of the Celestials. Aron has fought and failed aginst Earth's heroes but so has the Dreaming Celestial, that proves nothing. Although a Watcher typically refuses to interfer, it has been suggested a Watcher possesses similar raw power as Galactus. Uatu and Galactus once used their combined power to summon Eternity, the creator of the Celestials. Watchers may not interact with other species, but amongst themselves and in their Citadels there is a lot of impressive technology and crazy stuff going on.

Aron has fought and failed aginst Earth's heroes but so has the Dreaming Celestial, that proves nothing.

The dreaming Celestial hasnt woken up. Why do you think they have the same combined power? The Watchers are certainly powerful but eventually the Celestials will kill all the Watchers.

I don't care what anyone says, pip the troll is at the top of this list.

Was it the dreaming Celestial that attacked Dr Doom's ship?

The only thing I know about the dreaming Celestial waking up was in an alternate reality. Maybe it happend in the mainstream one but I dont recall that being the case.