Marvel Universe Hierarchy

mmm...beyonder is still below molecule man/the beyonders/ living tribunal/the one above all...

And where on the hierarchy is Owen Reece from the FF 27?

well from the looks of things, owen reece/molecule man is way more powerful than the Beyonder

in top ten list?

check this out...he is easily in the top ten...

http://beyonder.chez.tiscali.fr/beyonder.html

i have already checked it out do u think he is a match for the celestials? Can he expand he powers even more?

celestials are probably the most powerful discluding death, eternity, infinity, the infinites, oblivion and LT.

no i think it shows he is easily above the celestials...

How about when someone uses the ultimate nullifier the wrong way - they don't die (as in go to Death's realm), where do they go? Oblivion?

Originally posted by clickclick
celestials are probably the most powerful discluding death, eternity, infinity, the infinites, oblivion and LT.

They were created by Eternity and there is a slew of them. They are not the strongest alone.

Originally posted by Krissy Von Doom
How about when someone uses the ultimate nullifier the wrong way - they don't die (as in go to Death's realm), where do they go? Oblivion?

You mean look at the "wrong side of the barrel?" I'd figure they would die, but I've only seen it only a handful of times and have little to base on.

It was in a Power Pack comic where Nova was going crazy. Although the instrumentation was called the Elemental Nullifier (or something along those lines), it also caused the user to expire, but the Power Pack entourage was able to repell the wielder of the instrument from expiring by repelling him away with a form of force shield before it could take him.

No one's really used it the right way... once in a What if? Cap used it on the Big G and they both got zapped... Quasar used it in Infinity War but the Magus turned it against him, and Quasar went to a place where all dead protectors go, not to Death's realm or Oblivion's...

I had thought that Celestials were above cosmic cubes and that they could alter reality aswell.

no cosmic cubes r higher

I dont think Celestials can alter reality, they're cosmic "scientists" so altering reality... would be a bit weird for them.

From my understanding, a cosmic cube's power works "only" on a global scale hence even when the Magus had six or seven to work with, he wasn't even close to supreme being and had to use guile against Galactus rather than fighting him straight up in Infinity War. So they'd be below Celestials. That's my understanding anyway.

when beyonder and Molecule Man fought, even upper cosmic beings like Watchers were affected by their battle...One of the beyonders went blind. Since the watchers are powerful enough to have a War with the celestials, but still infantile compared to the Beyonder and MM, I would assume the celestials r below...oh and there was that time the Beyonder beat up all the celestials, just for fun.

I don't think the Watchers have enough power to beat the Celestials in a war though, even though there is a "war" between the two races.

the celestials will eventually kill hte watchers.

and didnt the beyonder have more power before? As in at one point he was above LT but its been changed.

yea the celestials would win essentially because they wouldnt fight back...Uatu and Aron r the only ones that do anything...I think the watchers r just as old and powerful though...kinda like the opposite of the celestials...watchers observe while celestials interfer.

I read, that the celestials will eventually kill the watchers and that the watchers know this to be true. It didnt say anything about the watchers not fighting back.

what is the full scale of a watchers power?

Yeah, but c'mon... two Celestials can throw planets around like nothing... I don't think even Uatu and Aron can do this. They are as old but definitely not as powerful. The Stranger, whom I consider equal to a single Watcher, strained to move the moon off its orbit.