Marvel Universe Hierarchy

I would say they are about on par with each other, only because eternity is the being that creates life and entrophy is the being that destroys life, so if one was stronger than the other, than you would have more life being created than should be destroyed, vice versa, thus if entrophy was stronger, the way the multiverse is being run would be uneven.

But I could be wrong I guess.

ummm, actually, death is the one that destroys life and eternity is the one which creates it, but i think that entropy doesnt just destroy life, but infinite, death, eternity, order, chaos, the infinites and possibly, some other abstracts too. i say this cause eternity has been KILLED, by the infinite gauntlet and the heart of the universe before but that didnt destroy the whole universe, but entropy destroyed the whole universe, and the universe is dependant on all the abstracts, which probably means that entropy is there to destroy everything, be it life or death.

They have exact equal power

Yup, they do.

And Eternity was never killed by either the Infinity Gauntlet or Heart. The Gauntlet put him into a catatonic state, while Thanos absorbed Eternity, Infinity, and LT into himself. And as Scarlet Spider said, Eternity had a DEATH WISH when Entropy killed him.

UGH!!!!! IM SO ****IN SICK OF THIS BULLSHIT! HOW THE ****IN HELL CAN ETERNITY AND ENTROPY BE ON THE SAME LEVEL, AFTER ALL THE M ****IN PROOF IVE GIVEN, AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, BUT UR NOT WILLIN TO LISTEN ARE YOU, NO, U CAN JUST SAY THAT "ETERNITY AND ENTROPY ARE ON THE SAME LEVEL" AND THATS THAT. HOW THE HELL CAN THEY BE ON THE SAME LEVEL, AFTER ALL THE THINGS ENTROPY HAS DONE? U SAY THAT ETERNITY HAD A DEATH WISH, BUT WHAT OF ALLL THE OTHER ABSTRACTS THAT SUPPORT THE UNIVERSE? EITHER GIVE SOME LOGICAL PROOF TO BACK UR DAMN ARGUMENT OR JUST STAY SILENT.

calm down leonheartmm.

Because Eternity creates, and Entrophy destroys, and you heard more about Entropy destroying than Eternity creating. Plus, in all Marvel sources, it says 'Entropy has the exact same amount of power as Eternity'.

ok alright ill calm down, lol.

umm, no cosmic beings, thas where ur wrong, eternity creates and DEATH destroys. but the destruction represented by entropy is on a whole different level then death, thas what u gotta understand, it destroys mostly everythin there is, including death. ok to make things easier, the destruction represented by death is as far below the destruction represented by entropy AS the destruction represented by entropy is below the destruction represented when THE HEART OF THE UNIVERSE was destroyed, now do u get what im talkin about. i mean they are all types of destructions but, u can figure out the difference by urself. neway. the official marvel handbook and stuff rent exactly right in my oppinion cause they simplify and overlook many facts, like say that juggernaut is unstoppable even by the most powerful forces on earth, but thats not true, he has been beaten and STOPPED literally, many times, and onslaught as well as apocalypse have easily resisted a charging juggy, but according to the official stuff, thas impossible, so dont believe the OFFICIAL stuff too much.

entropy and eternity are more abstracts than cosmic beings

well yea, but u know, they do tend to have humanoid personalities, so ill call em cosmic beings neway, hehe. but yea they are supposed to be abstracts but it doesnt seem that way nemore in the marvel universe, they tend to have definite personalities and desires, or purposes.

leonheartmm

ok alright ill calm down, lol.

umm, no cosmic beings, thas where ur wrong, eternity creates and DEATH destroys. but the destruction represented by entropy is on a whole different level then death, thas what u gotta understand, it destroys mostly everythin there is, including death. ok to make things easier, the destruction represented by death is as far below the destruction represented by entropy AS the destruction represented by entropy is below the destruction represented when THE HEART OF THE UNIVERSE was destroyed, now do u get what im talkin about. i mean they are all types of destructions but, u can figure out the difference by urself. neway. the official marvel handbook and stuff rent exactly right in my oppinion cause they simplify and overlook many facts, like say that juggernaut is unstoppable even by the most powerful forces on earth, but thats not true, he has been beaten and STOPPED literally, many times, and onslaught as well as apocalypse have easily resisted a charging juggy, but according to the official stuff, thas impossible, so dont believe the OFFICIAL stuff too much.

Or...since Eternity is an essential to the survivial of the universe, as is his sister death and brother Galactus, when the universe died everything else died including other abstract beings who exist within the same universe that Eternity embodies. Entropy is destruction. However, when a star goes supernova and dies, matters from the dead star eventually come together and form a new star out of matters of the old. Entropy is the opposite of Eternity. Every matter that is destroyed is what Entropy embodies. When Eternity was destroyed, the universe (like a star) exploded (supernova). Since everything is destroyed, Entropy takes all that destroyed matter. Since there's nothing left to destroy, the circle begins again. Entropy becomes his father (birth of a new star from old star).

Death only takes souls; she doesn't take ones body, matters mean nothing to her. Matter is what Entropy takes in. Everytime something is destroyed, Entropy embodies that destruction. Entropy is NOT more powerful than Death. He represents something different; matter that make up ones body and everthing in the universe is NOT the same as a person's soul - which is abstract.

ur mistaking eternity with everything that exists in the universe. eternity represents life, not matter or space or time, and death does not represent true destruction as u said, but it represents more than just souls, it represent the death of sentiences and any kinf of life force, be it a planet or a star, but even though it does not represent the destruction of matter, its still the equal and opposite of eternity as eternity represents LIFE, of all the things that death comes to.

also you should know that a universe is not just the matter that exists, its all the matter, space, energy,and time that exists in a dimension. therefore when entropy destroyed the universe, there wasnt any super nova like explosion with leftover MATTER, there wasnt infact any space to contain any matter or any TIME, at all, there was absolutely nothing left of the universe.

byw are u a fan of eternity, lol, cause it seems like u r, well u n cosmic beings

King Thor by right is more powerful than Odin himself. Loki agreed on that too

whered u come from.

i don't understand your Q

1. Thanos w/ THOTU
2. The One Above All
3. Secret wars beyonder
4. The Living Tribunal
5.Tie between Eternity and Infinity
6. Tie between Oblivion and Entropy
7. Max powered Galactus
8. Death

The Living Tribunal, and under him:

2.The Beyonder
3.Tie between Eternity and Infinity
4. Tie between Oblivion and Entropy
5. Max powered Galactus
6. Death

Thanos with the Hearth Of The Universe DOESN'T COUNT, he gain the supreme power but wasn't his own power, he stole it.

The One Above all is the strongest member of the Celestials, how he can be above TLT?

K3VIL, read this entire thread or most of it. It'll answer your question about the One Above All. Otherwise, your just going to have misinformation about the Marvel Universe Hierarchy running through your head.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f43/t311823.html

1) The Beyonder "TB" (forget the all the "Recon" crap)

2) TOAA/THOTU/Infinity gems in unison

3) TLT

4) Eternity and Infinity

5) Everybody Else

You see K3VIL "Beyonder" has said some amazing things in the this thread, missing some main points. Marvel Comics have indeed made some monumental mistakes in all the years they have been writing comics.

But if you read "S" wars, All cosmic entitys (bar TOAA) gang up on TB to and were powerless against him, that says it all.

If you read the Marvel Universe "MU" book of the dead (the charater comments from writers/creators of the comic books) entry about TB, it states HE WAS THE MOST POWERFUL PERSON TO EXISTS IN THE MU. NUFF SAID!!

leonheartmm, Beyonder and other site members. I think i will listen to the writers/creators of the comic books rather than someone who reads them.

Thank you for your time.