A Couple Thoughts On Anakin

Originally posted by Alfeetoe
Of course Anakin is Jesus. I mean note the similarities. Already stated was the fact that they were both conceived in a strange and unconventional manner. Then theres the hair, Im sure if there were pictures of Jesus when he was around the age Anakin was in Episode I, they would look identical. Both of em had shitty jobs as kids: one was a slave repair boy and the other was a lowly carpenter, but both were extremely skilled in their craft. Anakin now has long hair in ROTS, and Jesus always had long hair (if Anakin was horribly burned, I surely think he would have grown some facial hair, a la Jesus). Both of them die, in a way, to bring balance to their respective worlds/galaxies and both died with a sense of betrayal, Anakin from Obi and Jesus from the Jews/God ("Father, why have you foresaken me?"😉. It all fits a bit too perfectly for my tastes....I smell a Christian propaganda plot lurking deep inside the Star Wars plot! Hahaha

Oh Good Gravy another Sci-Fi look at religion (think Matrix) 😛

That is so very true. Obviously a lot is drawn from the bible and pulp noir 30s stylized elements. I agree that the parrallels are there, I only joke because it seems hilarious to me that we're comparing a 2000 belief structure to a series of pop-culture iconic films. Haha, I guess this is why .02% of the population claim their religion is Jedi.

"But that begs the question, why does Qui Gon believe that the force is unbalanced in the first place? At the beginning of Ep.I, the jedi believe that the sith are extinct, so how is the force unbalanced? Qui Gon seems to believe that Anakin is the force of good to balance out the evil. Maybe the movie will have the answers but I doubt it."

I think that the prophecy will deal with more that we have heard so far (theory). i believe it will state something alluding to an all-powerful dark force taking power, and the chosen one defeats him. that -i think- is why yoda and mace don't like the idea of anakin being the chosen one in ep1, because they know that the S*** has to hit the fan before balance is restored.

Oh and Im not trying to start the Sci-Fi/Religion thing, but it would be foolish not to note the glaring similarities. The Matrix had em too. Its cool to talk about them, but not too deeply, cause some of those Matrix fanatics are wacko. But definately, a lot of fiction today is borrowed from various religious backrounds and age-old tales.

That's a very cool theory PVS, I never thought of it like that. So, maybe Qui Gon believed that the sith were never really gone in the first place!

no need to defend yourself Alfeetoe,
its blatently obvious that anakin is a messiah character.
the whole saga is based on "the force", which is their religion.
is clear as day

Originally posted by ryzak620
Sanata.....paragraph breaks are your friend 😛

I have a couple of thoughts on this whole thing.

1) Anakin isn't the one to bring balance, but his son is...

2) By destroying Palpatine in RoTJ, Anakin restores balance to the force.

But that begs the question, why does Qui Gon believe that the force is unbalanced in the first place? At the beginning of Ep.I, the jedi believe that the sith are extinct, so how is the force unbalanced? Qui Gon seems to believe that Anakin is the force of good to balance out the evil. Maybe the movie will have the answers but I doubt it.

Also, will Padme die in the movie? If you remember Leia in RoTJ, she says that she sort of remembers her mother, mostly that she was sad. I don't think Padme dying will push Anakin over the edge, but Palpatine will somehow convince Anakin that Dooku was the one responsible for his mother's death, and killing Dooku turns Anakin to the dark side, ala the same way Palpatine wanted Luke to kill his father.

Isn't speculation fun? 🙂

You just contradicted yourself. 1 is wrong, but 2 is right

And to add my opinion about the whole "balance to the force" thing:

I believe that a key line in the whole Saga is when Yoda says to Obi-Wan and Mace that a more common problem with Jedi, even the older...more experienced...is their egos and their overconfidence...

Well, this is why the Jedi purge is part of the "bringing balance" to the force it's also kind of like cleaning house, as it were. The whole Jedi clock is set back to zero. See my earlier post for more clearification. (for anyone who is actually interested in the topic of the thread)

So, Luke is "the new hope"...while Anakin is the chosen one of the old generation.

I'm just going to put my two cents in...Dunno if this was said already nor do I care...

Anakin was supposed to bring the force back to balance, correct? So...If you have 10000000 jedi and 2 sith, how is that balanced? It isn't...

Anakin was ment to kill all the Jedi from the beginning, he was ment to balance the force...

BALANCE is when the Light side is "all"...UNBALANCE is when the Dark Side has people on it...aka the Sith...I know thats not real clear but thats as good as I can explain it...

"Anakin was supposed to bring the force back to balance, correct? So...If you have 10000000 jedi and 2 sith, how is that balanced? It isn't..."

neither is 1 jedi vs. 0 sith, as in the end of RotJ

you are missing my point hun.......its not balance in the literal sense...

here's my take on balance:

the jedi use the force to help others, while knowing they can't conquer evil.
when the jedi were around, there was still evil, as well as good.
like the hutts trading slaves, nemoidians craving wealth and power,
gungans being annoying...like yin and yang, there was a balance.
but under the emporer, the scale was tipped entirely to the dark side.
sith use the force to conquer everything and everyone, extinguishing "good".
everything becomes evil, and all that is good hides in fear.

so, when you think about it, evil is not conquered in RotJ,
but balance is still restored.

ok ok I KNOW I read that somewhere you gonna make me go look for it arent you PV? 😆

i cant help you there.
thats my own deduction.
but im sure many have come to that conclusion...
perhaps even GL? 🙂

"neither is 1 jedi vs. 0 sith, as in the end of RotJ"

Right...And that's where EU comes into play.

Nope, you're all wrong. Balance has just as much to do with the "light" side of the force as it does with the dark side existing at all. Remember the line in ATOC when Yoda says that over confidence and ego are a problem with the Jedi, even the older and more experienced. Hence the purge! The Jedi had to be cleaned out...just like Anakin had to fall for Palpatine to be destroyed

Too...many...words...can't...handle...overloading...

Was that all in one breath sanata?...damn!

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
ok ok I KNOW I read that somewhere you gonna make me go look for it arent you PV? 😆

ah HA! I found it!

"As evil begins to take over, it pushes the Force out of balance. It's easier to succumb to evil than it is to be a hero and try to work things through on the good side. Evil is inherently more powerful—it doesn't have the burden of worrying about other people. What Luke sees in Darth Vader at the end of ROTJ is something that I thought was worth understanding: the idea that Darth actually was a very good person. Except he's slightly more powerful than other people and when you get into that situation, your ability to do evil is much easier to come by."

George Lucas

AND

"Which brings us to films 4, 5 and 6, where Anakin's offspring redeem him and allow him to fulfill the prophecy where he brings balance to the Force by doing away with the Sith and getting rid of evil in the universe."
--George Lucas

"As evil begins to take over, it pushes the Force out of balance."
--George Lucas

Yes, evil is inherently more powerful 😈