A Couple Thoughts On Anakin

Started by PVS5 pages

"As evil begins to take over, it pushes the Force out of balance."
--George Lucas

thanks JP 🙂

there you have it, right from the horses mouth.
that should silence the know-it-alls 😄

I think as the film nears so will anticipation to see the darkside take over in 2005 when the film opens I think this movie will be the film of next summer for now got to catch a ship.

fresh from theforce.net:

Spoiler:
The moment Darth Vader wakes up from his slumber, and Anakin Skywalker truly is no more, the force will cease to exist in the land of the living. No more force sensitive children will be born... And all that will remain are those that had the gift before the dark times came, and managed to survive the first waves of the purge.

The last two force sensitive beings to come to existance, will be Luke and Leia, born mere seconds before their father's death... And the only survivors of the actual Jedi purge, that will go on for a great many years after the events of ROTS, are, as we all know, Yoda and Obi-Wan Kenobi.

The four of them survive, not to save the galaxy, but to save the man that will.

so i guess the whole "balance" thing goes even deeper than what we've discussed.

Originally posted by PVS
fresh from theforce.net:

Thats Gabe's theory....and I kinda like it myself! 😉

makes sense

and the thread at TFN's forums discussing Gabes theory is on fire at the moment!

yeah, those tf.n forums get pretty crazy.

I subscribe to the idea that it is a possibility that the Jedi will never rise again. Especially not the way that Supershadow says they will.

when they say balance to the force, do they mean light and dark or what, cuz why would they want that.

uh Getto...maybe read from the beginning of the thread 😑

So, Anakin probably did not know that padme was pregnant. I'm sure if he did, he and Palpatine would have scoured the universe looking for them. That also precludes Padme dying in the movie.

It has been confirmed that Anakin does INDEED know that Padme is pregnant.

Anakin knows of the pregnancy. This is proven in numerous different spoilers all over the internet. Just accept it.

Yeah, last I checked he was aware of Padme being pregnant. It'd be pretty messed up if he didn't know.

Ok, but if that's the case, why wouldn't he and Palpatine search everywhere for him? Maybe they do, and the reason that Luke is on Tatooine is that the place holds such terrible memories for Vader, that we will not go back there....only thing I can think of.

I can see your point about them searching everywhere for him, but so far we accept that he was just "hidden" And remember, once Luke was learning the ways of the force, the Emperor sensed that he would be a threat because he was powerful, so that's when they started going after him.

Vadar never searched for his children because he thought they were dead, as he is told Padme is dead, hence, the new dialogue added to ESB.

Emperor: ...I have no doubt this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker

Vadar: How is that possible?

etc...etc.

Blimwy, some people need their presentational skills improving!

The important points havre already been made, but I shall summarise them:

1. Anakin is the Chosen One, NOT Luke. That is direct from GL, and is not up for debate.

2. Balance involves the elimination of the Sith. It is NOT literal balance between the Light and Dark proponents in the Galaxy, which is a highly superficial view. By GL's definition that would not be balance. Balance is achieved at one point only- when the Sith are defeated, because it is the Sith, and the Dark Side, that unbalance the Force. No, the Jedi were not meant to die, and their doing so was nothing to do with Balance- it was a calamity, pure and simple.

People have got to get it out of their head that Anakin did an ultimately 'right thing' by destroying the Jedi. He did not! That removes hius moral complicity in his own downfall and undermines the entire point of the story! The whole point is that Anakin, due to personal attachment, deliberately rejected his own destiny by destroying the Jedi INSTEAD of the Sith. Now, as we know, in the heroic scale of things, Luke eventually manages to convince Anakin to fulfill his original destiny as well. But the evil he perpetrated in helpng to enslave the Galaxy and eliminate the Jedi remains just that- toally eveil- and should never have happened (though the story would be far more dull if it had not).

And this, as quotes provided have shown, is from GL as well.

Remember- evil (Sith) unbalances, good (Jedi) balances. The balanced Galaxy is the one with the Jedi in charge.

The Phantom Menace refers to the unbalancing force of the Dark Side which is growing and will destroy the Balance, as QGJ sensed. In Return of the Jedi, we come full circle as Balance is restored, and Luke will begin the whole Jedi thing again.

So people like Captain Fantastic really should check their facts before calling everyone else wrong, because it is he who is gravely mistaken.

One other thing- Anakin is not Jesus. GL's inspiration from these things comes from earlier mythologies.

"Vadar never searched for his children because he thought they were dead, as he is told Padme is dead, hence, the new dialogue added to ESB.

Emperor: ...I have no doubt this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker

Vadar: How is that possible?"

whether you are right or wrong depends on the dialogue in the new dvd.
in the OOT, in the beginning of ESB, vader sees the hoth base on screen and says "the rebels are there....I am sure young skywalker is with them"

therefore, he knows he is "skywalker", therefor his son.

and THEREFORE he is hiding luke's identity from the emporer

Oh yeah, i completely forgot about that.

I guess that does mean he is hiding Luke from The Emperor. 😉