venom vs juggernaut

Like how?

What can he do after he gets the helmet off? Try to go up his nose? Jug would snort him like a line of high grade cocaine.

Jug also ran away from Beast because "He...he scared me!", does that make Beast Jug's equal/superior?

No, it makes Jugs an idiot.

Anything foreign inside Jug's body will be seen as a disease/virus and be purged via magical enchantment.

Venom can't win, the only possible reason he was capable of even slightly stalemating Jugs is because of immense C.I.S/P.I.S.

Oh, and uhhhhhhhhhhh SONIC CLAP! (Not a cosmic V.D)
Jug has Venom's greatest weakness litterally in the friggin palm of his hands.

C'mon jinzin....

and is far too stupid to use it... no seriously venom can use his symbiotic other to literally instill mind wrenching nightmares into cains brain where he won't be able to tell distorted visions from reality..it's cheap but it's a win...and venom's certainly capable of it...

I just keep bringing up the fact that juggy ran away because people often remember the first fight, but have selective memories about the next two.

They don't forget about it, they dismiss it. And rightly so.

How exactly does Venom install nightmares?

Originally posted by long pig
They don't forget about it, they dismiss it. And rightly so.

How exactly does Venom install nightmares?

I don't know the particualars of how it works..but it has something to do with the way that symbiotes mess with host's minds.. the way she-venom became more hostile in personality traits, spider-carnage too... only what I'm talking about is like a complete mind wipe/install (whatever) carnage did it to a poor cop and sent him to the loony bin... this is a huge weapon to use in terms of juggy's weakneses.

Juggy is nothing without his helmet, at least that's what I know. Venom would outsmart Juggy and attack Juggys mind and then destroy him. It doesn't occure Venom that Juggernaut has strength enough to destroy the symbiote. Also in the comics Venom made Juggy run away like a LITTLE SISSY 😆 😆 When I said that Venom would web Juggy I meant that after that Venom has taken Juggys helmet, he would web juggy and destroy him. BESIDES, Juggernaut isn't smart enough to figure out that only Sonics and Fire is what really hurts Venom

Originally posted by jinzin
actually venom later made juggy run away like a little girl the final time they threw down and that was without help from the madness virus...

also venom CAN do damage to juggernaught in a big big way if he can pull juggernaught's helmet off or sever the bolts of it...I just don't think that's likely to happen..but yes..there is a small chance he could win.

Originally posted by Venom Dude No.1
Juggy is nothing without his helmet, at least that's what I know. Venom would outsmart Juggy and attack Juggys mind and then destroy him. It doesn't occure Venom that Juggernaut has strength enough to destroy the symbiote. Also in the comics Venom made Juggy run away like a LITTLE SISSY 😆 😆 When I said that Venom would web Juggy I meant that after that Venom has taken Juggys helmet, he would web juggy and destroy him. BESIDES, Juggernaut isn't smart enough to figure out that only Sonics and Fire is what really hurts Venom

C-master after reading this post you must be an idiot. I never said Venom was 40 class. I said the symbiote increases ones powers or strengths 40 times. This means with Brocks strenth he could lift about 20 to 25 tons. Do you not know what a ton is. Is mathematics that hard for you. Then I said if he gets an adrenalin boost making Brock's strength more in the way some people can lift a five ton rock off somebody in certain situtions he can become stronger for short periods of time. In some situtions people can gain amazing strength with an adrenalin rush. The costume can control this, there by increasing in strength. You shoud really read the post or at least try to understand it before speaking again. If Brock is able to increase his strength where he could lift four or five tons as a human which he could since people have done it with huge amounts of adrenalin he could match the likes of Juggernaut for a short time. Short time is the key words here because adrenlin in the body is short lived.

venom all the way

Juggernaut wins.

Originally posted by Jvenom
C-master after reading this post you must be an idiot.

Great yet another fanboy, I think you are wrong, and a hypocrite, considered you just started insulting me.

You think he can beat superman and juggernaut, please, your credibility is going nowhere in this forum, you are a fanboy of the highest degree.

You use shitty crossovers to support your premise, and you use no logic or reasoning, period.

Read other comics BESIDES the ones with venom in it kid.

Originally posted by Jvenom
I never said Venom was 40 class.

So you are saying he is in class 100 after an adrenaline boost stupid, you know nothing of what you are talking about.

I fight and stuff in training, I edit novels and read the dictionary for a hobby, don't try to discuss semantics with me, when your premise is so flawed, and you are a damn fanboy.

Originally posted by Jvenom
I said the symbiote increases ones powers or strengths 40 times.

No wrong again.

Brocks powers are from a copy of spiderman, each host it gets alittle stornger, the reason brock has gotten so strong is because he lifts weights to keep himself in peak shape.

So you are a fanboy who knows little about his character also, how about that?

Originally posted by Jvenom
This means with Brocks strenth he could lift about 20 to 25 tons. Do you not know what a ton is.

I know how much a ton is, a ton is 2000 lbs, a tonne is 2400 lbs.

That means by your increase he hits the 100 ton class, which is just absurd.

Originally posted by Jvenom
s mathematics that hard for you.

You know little about your own character, he is street level, and you have a fanboy delusion telling you that he beats people like superman and hulk and juggernaut.

Hulk that destroyed an aesteroid?

Hulk that bent adamantium, and stretched the cosmic cube, and moved the blob?

Superman that moved a planet.

Juggernaut won't be scratched by brocks BEST hits, therefore your argument is absurd.

Originally posted by Jvenom
Then I said if he gets an adrenalin boost making Brock's strength more in the way some people can lift a five ton rock off somebody in certain situtions he can become stronger for short periods of time.

"adrenaline", learn to spell.

I know what adrenaline is quite well I fought overseas.

You don't need to bother voicing your shitty opinion, just sit back and listen.

Originally posted by Jvenom
In some situtions people can gain amazing strength with an adrenalin rush.

and?

Will it hurt juggernaut, no.

So lets let logic conclude that, no matter how strong he gets he ISN'T hurting juggernaut.

You are wrong plain and simple, and the fact that you think that this is venom the madness makes you that much more rediculous.

Originally posted by Jvenom
The costume can control this, there by increasing in strength.

The strength won't hurt juggernaut, what part of that don't you understand?

Colossus can't, thing can't, hulk (the strongest character in marvel by the way) can't , so what makes you think venom can?

Fanboyism thats right, stupid fanboyism that has plauged this forum.

Originally posted by Jvenom
You shoud really read the post or at least try to understand it before speaking again.

You need to stop backpatting jinzin, but you are as bad as him with logic, you also need to use logic.

Lets see: juggernaut "immune to physical harm"

Venom, isn't, and he can't hurt juggernaut.

Will a strength increase matter, no not really.

Why do you people post this tripe, and then act so smug and sarcastic.

I've seen your posts the last few days, and they are not impressive.

I like venom MUCH more than I like juggernaut, the difference is I'm objective.

I just served you up like a 10 oclock concession, go read a comic AND use logic before talking next time young man.

You've been served.

Originally posted by Jvenom
If Brock is able to increase his strength where he could lift four or five tons as a human which he could since people have done it with huge amounts of adrenalin he could match the likes of Juggernaut for a short time.

No, your premise is flawed severly, you also shot down your own argument.

You don't know the rules of the forum or anything.

What happens when the adrenaline wears off, and brock has exausted his energy, and juggernaut is laughing?

Originally posted by Jvenom
Short time is the key words here because adrenlin in the body is short lived.

Thank you for realizing that, there may be hope for you yet.

No, not really there isn't.

OWNED!!! yea and juggernaut wins but you cant blamed the fan boys for trying

Originally posted by superman302
OWNED!!! yea and juggernaut wins but you cant blamed the fan boys for trying

And they are rude to boot.

Sweet ownage!! 👆

The costume does increase ones strength 40 times. I have ever Venom comic and seen it. I can give you a list of comics where it has done that. I also know something about adrenaline because I am a prison guard so I don't care if you served over seas that just means you are a baby killer.

Originally posted by Jvenom
The costume does increase ones strength 40 times. I have ever Venom comic and seen it. I can give you a list of comics where it has done that. I also know something about adrenaline because I am a prison guard so I don't care if you served over seas that just means you are a baby killer.

It is a copy of spiderman's attributes.

With cloaking etc.

Again does it matter no, so why bring it up.

I am a baby killer lol, I'm the reason you sleep safe at night.

Originally posted by jinzin
actually venom later made juggy run away like a little girl the final time they threw down and that was without help from the madness virus...

also venom CAN do damage to juggernaught in a big big way if he can pull juggernaught's helmet off or sever the bolts of it...I just don't think that's likely to happen..but yes..there is a small chance he could win.

I don't even mean this in a mean way, but what can Venom do once Jugg's helmet is off? Not that I believe Venom will ever get that close to Juggernaut without being ripped in half...but what could Venom do?

All they are doing is using plot devices, no solid argument.

Originally posted by Jvenom
C-master after reading this post you must be an idiot. I never said Venom was 40 class. I said the symbiote increases ones powers or strengths 40 times. This means with Brocks strenth he could lift about 20 to 25 tons. Do you not know what a ton is. Is mathematics that hard for you. Then I said if he gets an adrenalin boost making Brock's strength more in the way some people can lift a five ton rock off somebody in certain situtions he can become stronger for short periods of time. In some situtions people can gain amazing strength with an adrenalin rush. The costume can control this, there by increasing in strength. You shoud really read the post or at least try to understand it before speaking again. If Brock is able to increase his strength where he could lift four or five tons as a human which he could since people have done it with huge amounts of adrenalin he could match the likes of Juggernaut for a short time. Short time is the key words here because adrenlin in the body is short lived.

I really hope you were just exaggerating when you said people can lift a five ton rock even in the most extreme adrenaline-pumped situations.

I really hope.

And besides, let's say that Venom's strength does increase with adrenaline. Let's say...3-4 times?

Venom's strength (even after boost)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Juggernaut's strength

Plus, you know, that whole "invulnerability" Juggs has going for him. Let's not forget that now.

That's why what you're saying doesn't make any sense.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I really hope you were just exaggerating when you said people can lift a five ton rock even in the most extreme adrenaline-pumped situations.

I really hope.

And besides, let's say that Venom's strength does increase with adrenaline. Let's say...3-4 times?

Venom's strength (even after boost)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Juggernaut's strength

Plus, you know, that whole "invulnerability" Juggs has going for him. Let's not forget that now.

That's why what you're saying doesn't make any sense.