Harry Potter...work of the devil?

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lol just wanna repeat this 🙂

Originally posted by angelsflame265

Kids understand that it is just a story, yes maybe they might get the broom and run around with it pretending to fly. But they are just using there imaginations, its like having an imagnary friend. It is normal, and they understand its not real, other wise I would've ran off to london when I first read the books, and demanded to go on the hogwarts express.

and the fact that the cloesest thing to magic is the religion of wicca, which if you look up information on, you see is not really a dangerous 'magic' religion as many people seem to beilive.

Magic (n)

Stems from the latin word "magi" meaning "wisdom." I can compeletly see and understand your concerns F.E. they call it the "school of WITCHCRAFT and wizardry," but i really think that IS the ONLY mistake in the book. like i mentioned earlier, that word does have a negative connotation. if they said "magic" i doubt it would be much of an issue. as i see you've never used the word magic to describe it, you use witchcraft. honestly though, they only mention it maybe in the 1st book to announce the whole title.
Im not saying you SHOULD do this, but Fiery Eyes, why dont you try and read one..just one chapter say, from the first book? there's not much weird goings on there anyways. Its like what my parents do with movies. They see them first to determine if I can see them or not. I duno i guess just form your opinions about the book. I mean it might not emphasize the evil as much as you think it would. You dont have to, its just a suggestion. i understand your POV, and hopefully if you do read them, you'll see our PoV...the colorful language, the reality of the harsh life the main character goes through, his wanting to fit in...its all just innitself a spectacular series of books.

F.E. If you do decide to read a page...go to a library...so you don't have to bring it in you home..etc..etc........

I believe that the kind of MAGIC that kids and everyone else is infatuated with is the magic that doesn't exist. All the hocus pocus stuff. LIke I turn you into a pig or watch my wand stuff. I don't think they are into the books that talk about witchcraft.

Anyone who would open one page of a wiccan book can clearly see that this is nothing close.

I HAVE READ A PAGE FROM ONE B/C MY FRIEND'S AUNT WAS/IS(?) WICCAN! It didn't interest me. I was 15...or 16..I think......

But it interested my friend. I am a firm believer in a Bible, I wanted to peek and see (curiousity). But it wasn't anything for me.

THERE IS A HUGE difference when you know you are reading something that isn't real..............than opening a book that REALLY does teach you.

The things in JK"s books are IMPOSSIBLE to teach to children.

When children role play them they just want to dress up as they do in school and carry a wand.

The spells like Alahomora(open doors) they things they learn in school are SIMPLE...

They don't learn the bad ones until its about time to graduate...and it is used for self defense. If you are going to use a spell then you have to konw its affects...etc......

Unfortunately Harry has encountered them a few years early.

This is a just a story and people are fascinated with it b/c its not real.

My husband and I love fantasy books b/c they are not real because God did not create life to be like that.

Have you watched the movie? The movies are a bit different than the books.

Yeah they are 😄

most def

lol id say ALOT different than the books. the books in my opinion were better than the movies. well at least the third one...alfonso did poorly and i want CC back!!! <: (

i agree we should protest...

Author: Angelia Kelsey -aka- ~Air Angel, KMC HP Forum Moderator~

"THE ONE WITH THE POWER TO VANQUISH THE DARK LORD APPROACHES…BORN TO THOSE WHO HAVE THRICE DEFIED HIM, BORN AS THE SEVENTH MONTH DIES…AND THERE THE DARK LORD WILL MARK HIM AS HIS EQUAL, BUT HE WILL HAVE THE POWER THE DARK LORD KNOWS NOT….”

That passage piece from J.K. Rowling’s most recent book, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, is intriguing to most readers. However many Christian parents support the banning of the Harry Potter books in belief that the books teach children to accept witchcraft and to allow Satan into their lives.

Staff Sgt. Barbara Schleppenbach is one of many Christian parents who believe that the books are unfit for children. “These books create bad images in your mind I personally would rather have my daughter involved in more educational readings.”

Despite many organizations’ attempts to ban the books, more than 250 million copies of Rowling’s books have been sold around the world.
Furthermore her books have been published in 200 different countries and translated into 55 languages.

Rowling’s books encourage millions of children to challenge their reading abilities because of their interest in Potter’s magical world.

“I think the books challenge children to reach for their dreams, no matter how difficult it might be,” said 18-year-old Reginald Halbert.

In addition, Rowling’s books have been honored with numerous awards to include the British Book Awards Children’s Book of the Year. She also received a special commendation from the Anne Spencer Lindbergh Prize for her outstanding contribution to children’s fantasy literature.

When Schleppenbach was a child she was taught that when you read something you are getting involved with it. Therefore she believes that if her 6-year-old daughter were to read the Harry Potter books then she would be opening her mind to evil.

Nevertheless, there are families around the world who have grown to know and love the teenage wizard star, Harry Potter, and his trusty sidekicks Ronald Weasley and Hermione Granger.

“I am a Christian, and I can see why the books could be perceived as a threat to many. However, I think it goes without saying that these novels are a work of fiction, and nothing more,” said 17-year-old Dawn Bergemann.

Throughout their magical adventures Potter has fended off dementors and death eaters, otherwise known as dark wizards. He has defeated many magical beasts, but has not yet conquered the evil dark lord himself, Lord Voldemort.

Since Harry’s main defense against those creatures and wizards is magic, most Christian organizations believe that these books influence others to worship Satan.

“The story is about a boy who lost both his parents and one day finds out that he is a wizard,” Halbert said. “I think people have confused that simple story and created it into some witches cult that teaches kids to practice magic, spells and all that jazz,” he added.

Michael Terry suggests that its is simply attracting more people worldwide than any church has done. “The books are plainly harmless, not even remotely worrisome to a Church, it must be its popularity that is causing such an outcry,” he said.

Because of the Harry Potter craze that has hit the world; many churches have rallied to ban these books because of the books contents. Which include witches, wizards, a great deal of magical creatures and of course the school’s name includes the word witchcraft.

The Bible states in Psalm 34:14: "Depart from evil and do good; seek peace and pursue it."

Also stated in the Bible in II King 21:6, "He made his son pass through the fire, practiced soothsaying, used witchcraft, and consulted spiritist’s and mediums.” The Lord called this evil in his sight.

A sorcerer is defined as a person, who is knowledgeable in the occult arts, and also who is a conjurer. Those are people who can summon up a devil of a spirit by invocation or spell.

In contrast, a witch is defined as someone who uses magic wizardry,
sorcery and also is considered to be in an occult.

“They should be done away with, even the movies,” said Airman 1st Class Nicole Henley.

Airman 1st Class Tamika Washington believes people will hear about the books regardless of what’s done to prevent reading them.

If the Harry Potter books become a part of Schleppenbach’s daughter’s school curriculum she said she would have no problem with her daughter reading them, as long as they were read at school and not in her home.

On the contrary, Lori Prewitt has a different opinion. “My kids are not allowed to read that book or study it in or outside of school. So, if a teacher tries my kid will not. I will go to the board about that, it will not happen.”

In addition, she said, “The book actually was in our school, the teacher taught a grade above my child’s and was reading it to the kids, and my son would have had her the following year. However, many complained to school officials and she’s not reading it anymore,” Prewitt added.

In agreement with Prewitt, Henley and Washington both said they would talk to the school officials if the books ever became a required reading.

Although many schools in the U.S. and Europe have banned the book, the books are still available to purchase through bookstores and online. Libraries have not been as quick to ban the books. Most libraries still carry the books and they are available for children to check them out.

“I have met thousands of children now, and not even one time has a child come up to me and said, “Ms. Rowling, I’m so glad I’ve read these books because now I want to be a witch.” They see it for what it is. It is a fantasy world and they understand that completely,” Rowling said in an interview with CNN in response to Christian accusations against her books.

The books have had a profound increase in children’s reading
interests and they challenge kids to read more difficult books.

“Each book is hundreds of pages long and challenges children to read them from the first to the very last page,” Halbert said.

Furthermore, Potter is also a role model for children because he is a fictional character who somehow manages to survive the obstacles that are put in front of him. This makes him the hero in the end.

Though Rowling writes about the thrilling, dangerous and exciting adventures of Potter’s life she has told the public many times that she does not believe in magic, and she is still shocked at how her books have touched the nation.

Okay I added it LS~😄

Originally posted by angelsflame265
lol just wanna repeat this 🙂

and the fact that the cloesest thing to magic is the religion of wicca, which if you look up information on, you see is not really a dangerous 'magic' religion as many people seem to beilive.

I have looked it up, and wicca is just a cover up for witchcraft.

well guess what everyone LOL dishnetwork turned hbo on this weekend, cuz we don't have it but anyways....Harry potter was on i was by myself so i turned it to it and watched a few minutes of it. He was talking to a book or something he would write then answers would appear, I only watched a few minutes but it was freaky to me, i turned it LOL but hey, i did watch a few minutes of it lol

oooooooooo lol you would understand that if you watched the whole movie, yeah that would be scary if that was the first intake of harry potter you had lol

Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
It seems as though everyone thats in here twig, has there mind made up about hp? so, why shld one be singled out cuz she doesn't agree? 🙂 So are you saying if I agreed w/everyone then its ok to be in here? Now talking about pushing a beleif on someone...i would say that would be what you were doing. I have people in my own church that read hp lol I have never ever told them they were evil or ever treated them diff cuz they read it (to each their own). I don't go to heaven or Hell for them so it's not for me to degrade them and be rude. I try to treat everyone the same reguardless of what they do in their life. Not everyone agrees w/ea other and thats OK. 🙂 🙂 🙂

*sigh* You misunderstood me once again. Someone said perhaps you came here to learn more about HP or w/e and I said that by the looks of it you didn't want to. It's fine though. State your opinion, and I'll state mine. It just so happens I feel strongly about what you were saying so I responded how I felt. Now if someone comes in here and says "I belive HP is connected to witchcraft and will turn you evil"- (that's not a direct quote) I'm going to respond to it, just like you had the nerve to come in here and say something along those lines (sorry if I was too harsh with that).

I really cannot fathom the idea that anyone finds HP actually scary.. maybe a sheltered little kid but.. (oh yeah, and I was stating my opinion there too).

Originally posted by ~Air Angel~
Twig, you just can't go around cussing and stuff at her. There are politer ways to say things.

I have not ever banned anyone or recommended to...............YET! 😄

Post...just use reasonable words.

pokey K! 😄

Now wait a minute! I never cussed at her! If I'm not mistaken I'm being wrongly accused here.

*gets poked* Ouch.. well that wasn't really friendly was it *walks away rubbing eye*

😆

if you all go up another post, i'd like you to read air angel's paper she wrote for class. maybe we'll start to understand each other's PoV about whats going on. This was her news story and its very well stated and unbiased 🙂

go potter down with ur head only kiddin he s buff

😂 thats ...umm...nice...but we're not here to talk about how buff harry potter is. if you wanna talk about dan radcliffe go to the celeb thread 😉

Originally posted by twigNig
*sigh* You misunderstood me once again. Someone said perhaps you came here to learn more about HP or w/e and I said that by the looks of it you didn't want to. It's fine though. State your opinion, and I'll state mine. It just so happens I feel strongly about what you were saying so I responded how I felt. Now if someone comes in here and says "I belive HP is connected to witchcraft and will turn you evil"- (that's not a direct quote) I'm going to respond to it, just like you had the nerve to come in here and say something along those lines (sorry if I was too harsh with that).

I really cannot fathom the idea that anyone finds HP actually scary.. maybe a sheltered little kid but.. (oh yeah, and I was stating my opinion there too).

The name of this thread is: hp...work of the devil?? thats why i came in here, cuz i thought it was about peeps opinions of it and i thought it was asking, is it the work of the devil?? and I thk i'm right that is what this thread is about, so i posted my opinion, just so happens i'm the odd ball in here on the opinion, wich is ok w/me. I've not bashed anyone, just stated my opinion of it. thxxx 🙂

we're not bashing you F.E. 🙂 its nice to understand other peoples viewpoints, but the same time we're trying to get you to understand ours, and some people get really passionate about it 🙂 even me 😂

i just have a question...its not meant to be accusatory in any way, but FE do you let your kids read/watch Sabrina, Magic School Bus, Lord of the Rings, Cinderella or Ella Enchanted? things like that? they alll have magic proprieties in them. lots of the disney movies do, and they're not meant to be harmless i dont think 😕