Graffiti - art or vandalism?

art that is not sanctioned by a city which infringes on private property is not art but a blotch in the landscape...whether they're burners or taglines...graffiti done on canvas and in galleries is another story...and to those who call these artists as sellouts are deluding themselves in thinking theirs is true art when done on the side of a wall or over a freeway sign...where's the logic in that???

i think graffiti is vandalism 😐

can't it be both?

i think its both cuz some is good 😄 and some is bad 🙁

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
"Graffiti is not art, it's crime," - Tony Blair

What do you think about graffiti art? The professional one. Do you think its art, or is it a vandalism?

I dont think graffiti is vandalism, i generaly believe its art, just outside the studio or museum. But closed minded idiots like Tony Blair come out with sentences like the one above due to the ignorance!

I hate when people think that making something illegal will solve all problems!

I dont believe graffiti should be banned. Not at all. The tag-graffiti should be controled, i agree, but banning it all together is like banning a style of art.

Thoughts?

I believe some graffiti is as much art as any painting.
In fact I love looking at it, and find it more stimulating and expressive then alot of things in an art gallery.

I think that yes, there should be boundries placed on it like anything else, too much of a good thing is still too much, but I don't think outlawing it altogether is a solution.

And I am thinking of tasteful graffiti, not the vulgar words or phrases found sometimes 🙄

It depends on:

1) The intention behind the act
2) The place inwhich said act was carried out

It can be both

Originally posted by dave123
can't it be both?

Now who watches too much Family Guy? 😉

Recently i went to London there's tons of graffiti some of it is crap
and some of it is amazing art, what would say?tank

The cool stuff is cool. ermm

when done properly and taken time over, it can be truly incredible, and/or put out a good political message. however, the small scrawls you get are rubbish.

I've been to London a couple of times and once there was a piece of graffiti about 3 blocks from 10 Downing street that said "Cops are smelly..." always thought that was great. 😐

Originally posted by Bloigen
I've been to London a couple of times and once there was a piece of graffiti about 3 blocks from 10 Downing street that said "Cops are smelly..." always thought that was great. 😐

I live in London it's all shit. "Street Art" says it all. Give out the ASBOs and curfews please Mr Blair!!!

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
"Graffiti is not art, it's crime," - Tony Blair

What do you think about graffiti art? The professional one. Do you think its art, or is it a vandalism?

I dont think graffiti is vandalism, i generaly believe its art, just outside the studio or museum. But closed minded idiots like Tony Blair come out with sentences like the one above due to the ignorance!

I hate when people think that making something illegal will solve all problems!

I dont believe graffiti should be banned. Not at all. The tag-graffiti should be controled, i agree, but banning it all together is like banning a style of art.

Thoughts?

Tagging is an art, ey.

Technically its also vandalism, since its illegal.

Graffitti can be both obviously. But the point Blair was probably trying to make is that to spray something on public property without permission is vandalism..which....it is.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Graffitti can be both obviously. But the point Blair was probably trying to make is that to spray something on public property without permission is vandalism..which....it is.

ASBOs all round, tag the Chavs!!!!

Like many sensible people have said; Nobody is denying that some graffiti is great, but if it's done where it's not allowed, it's vandalism.

Nobody is saying vandalism can't look good in the form of graffiti, just that it is, in fact, vandalism.

-AC

If graffitti is treated like art, it is. If tis treated like vandalism, it is.

I myself have done graffitti. I always do it in non-permenant materials, but I know people who use permenant materials.

Scrawling your name or gang symbols is not art. Art has a message...and a lot of graffitti does. It is still art, even if its not on your property.

I know people who have done graffitti art on buildings and the owners have decided to keep it. True graffitti SHOULD be on someone elses property.

Originally posted by Alliance
Scrawling your name or gang symbols is not art.

Um, yeah it is.

Originally posted by Alliance
Art has a message

Exactly, which contradicts what you said above.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Um, yeah it is.

Exactly, which contradicts what you said above.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Um, yeah it is.

Exactly, which contradicts what you said above.

Though I'd say gang symbols can be called "art" I might also add that he said Art has a message not that something with a message is always art.

By the way, npot sure about the "Art has a message" part either.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Though I'd say gang symbols can be called "art"

Of course, they perfectly fit the definition of art.

Originally posted by The Libertine
Do you "tag" things homie?

Not any more.