Graffiti - art or vandalism?

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Historic graffiti mural discovered in Manhattan building

It was the stuff of urban legend — rumors that a historic Manhattan building had important graffiti hidden in its walls.

Except, in this case, it was true.

A large mural that was created by some of graffiti's earliest pioneers was discovered recently in a 10-story limestone building in SoHo just as developers were converting it into luxury condominiums.

The artwork contains a variety of images and writing executed in spray paint, grease pencil, magic marker and whatever else was on hand — in silver, gold, pink and red. There are cartoonlike pictures of a bomber airplane, images of a heart and a cake, and several references to Quaaludes, a popular 1970s party drug.

The mural was found in the eighth-floor loft owned by art critic Edit deAk in the late '70s and 1980s — a time when much of fringe art, including graffiti, was being validated. The wall is nearly intact, except for gaps where a dishwasher and plumbing were installed years later.

Fab 5 Freddy and Futura 2000 — who helped pioneer graffiti as an art form by spray-painting entire subway trains in psychedelic colors — figure prominently on the wall. There is also writing believed to belong to artist Jean Michel Basquiat. The stylistic words "Dead or Alive" strongly suggest that it is the late artist's work. His tag, "SAMO," appears in the stairwell of the building.

But experts say the wall's significance does not depend on Basquiat, who died in 1988 of an overdose at age 27 and whose works command millions of dollars on today's art market. Rather, it is a testament to the underground culture of almost 30 years ago, and especially to the iconic artists who were living the art of the street.

"It's a great discovery," says Alberto Mugrabi, a major Basquiat and Andy Warhol collector. "It's the beginning of graffiti (as art)."

"Obviously, it's a critical piece of history, SoHo history," says Lisa Dennison, the former director of the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum.

The developers, Michael and Izak Namer, purchased the building in 2004, and had long heard rumors about some hidden art. But they dismissed the rumors even after Rite-Art magazine editor deAk, who moved out in 1984, told them: "There is a Basquiat, and it's somewhere where you won't think it is."

Basquiat or not (DeAk did not return calls for comment), the mystery was solved last year by Michael Namer's son, Matthew, who was then living in the loft-turned-two-bedroom apartment.

"He started to poke around, climbs on the kitchen cabinets and opens up a little piece," says Namer. "Futura 2000" in black and gray stylized calligraphy was revealed — a "Holy Grail" of graffiti since Futura was only 16 when he wrote it. The building's conversion — by renowned architect Lee Skolnick — was immediately halted in the former loft.

Treating the site like an archaeological dig, the kitchen cabinets came down with the gypsum board behind it. Another wallboard and a white tiled wall hid a smaller section of the mural, found in what had become a bathroom.

Finding themselves in possession of "an iconic piece that created the renaissance of what downtown became — a viable and interesting place to live," the Namers say they set out to authenticate the wall. They consulted with Guggenheim chief conservator Paul Schwartzbaum, Dennison, Mugrabi and other experts.

"Is it an artwork or is it a relic of the era? It's a little bit of both," says Dennison, who is now executive vice president at Sotheby's. "It has the hands of so many artists, and that's what makes it so interesting and exciting."

The mural will be publicly unveiled Thursday as part of a retrospective exhibit of the graffiti art movement (1980-1985). Running until Feb. 15 in the SoHo building's Gallery 151, "The Wild Style Exhibit" takes its name from the iconic 1982 hip-hop movie.

The show will display works of graffiti's greats: Keith Haring, Basquiat, Kenny Scharf, Ero and Fab 5. All come from private collections, many unseen since the 1980s, including Scharf's "Palladium, a mural canvas created for the reincarnated Palladium Music Hall and Disco, and Basquiat's portrait of Fab 5 Freddy.

The Namers have invested "in the six figures" on the mural, hiring art conservator Harriet Irgang and California landscape photographer Bob Weingarten to document the process and produce a catalog for the exhibit.

Irgang has stabilized the two walls by applying an adhesive to flaking paint and glitter. Next, she will cover the mural with tissue paper, cheesecloth and a stiff fabric to enable the graffiti to be "peeled" off — a process that involves using spatulas and chisels to separate the plaster from the coarse brown mortar behind it. Once freed, the graffiti will be mounted on a lightweight panel so it can be moved.

Ultimately, the Namers want to donate the graffiti to a major museum and are currently in discussions with several. Few graffiti walls exist, as many were painted over or destroyed.

Fred Brathwaite, also known as Fab 5 Freddy, a hip-hop pioneer who has forged a career in music videos, says the graffiti was a spontaneous collaboration among the various artists who visited the loft.

He calls the wall a "visual document to a turning point in a cultural landscape and in the art world."

Basquiat mentor Diego Cortez agrees. "They took something that was local -- self taught like folk art -- and made it something beyond that," he said.

In 1979-1980, he drew a large red airplane dropping a bomb (as an antiestablishment symbol) and spray-painted "Fred" and "Fab 5 Freddy" after DeAk asked him to "tag my wall."

The loft was a kinetic space where artists creating and experimenting in new art forms could crash, cook a meal together and swap ideas. Brathwaite says he came there with Futura and Basquiat and recalls mingling with filmmaker Eric Mitchell, members of the rock group Blondie and fashion model Lisa Rosen, who appeared in the Basquiat cult film "Downtown 81."

The loft was a microcosm of the scene outside: a burgeoning art district with galleries showing artists Roy Lichtenstein, Frank Stella and Andy Warhol, and nightclubs like the Fun Gallery and Mudd Club -- fixtures of the underground music and counterculture.

Dennison says the mural could be a wonderful addition to any museum, especially as a focus of an educational program, given that some of the artists are still around.

It could potentially also find a place in SoHo, she says, as "a freestanding monument to the era."

sure its art. but its also vandalism

Originally posted by leonheartmm
sure its art. but its also vandalism

Not much more to say than that.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
sure its art. but its also vandalism

I would be more specific that it can be art and vandalism.

To paraphrase Doug Stanhope again after less than ten minutes

Art is a word much like love that doesn't mean anything. The Mona Lisa and the butter knife in ass joke on stage are "art". It doesn't say anything.

^ i just realised that "bardock" rhymes with "buttock" . have a nice day buttock42 🙂 .

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^ i just realised that "bardock" rhymes with "buttock" . have a nice day buttock42 🙂 .

so does big cock...never thought of that did you?...DID YOU?

why am i saying this?

^ yes yes, go on inflating his already large and translucent head.

the car park by the recreational centre nearish my house was covered in graffiti, the sorta typical swearing **** swansea or someone loves someone sorta graffiti
but now its been cahnged and teh graffiti was done by actual artists i think...it looks amazing now!

so i think graffiti is art, but it can be abused

Originally posted by Ushgarak

Graffiti is inflicted upon people, on public property, whether they want it or not. And a very large amount do not. So it is entirely appropritate to label it criminal.

Exactly. It is a crime to deface public or other peoples private property. Not to mention that most graffiti looks like utter shit.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7125611.stm

a link to some of banksy's new work on the west bank

and julian beever's new pieces

and a link

http://users.skynet.be/J.Beever/pave.htm

Stuff like Jaden posted above is pure art, to my opinion genius art even. To bad so much graffiti is just foul looking tags and crappy throw-ups.
But concerning the real works of street art, the more the merrier!
Can't really understand why the public could get upset about a 'perhaps illegal' painting on a wall, while buildings are being paved with unwanted advertisements and neon signs with full approval of the man.

Graffiti is art because it's vandalism.

If I was around a microsoft company i'd be graffiting them big time.

Originally posted by Pandemoniac
Stuff like Jaden posted above is pure art, to my opinion genius art even. To bad so much graffiti is just foul looking tags and crappy throw-ups.
But concerning the real works of street art, the more the merrier!
Can't really understand why the public could get upset about a 'perhaps illegal' painting on a wall, while buildings are being paved with unwanted advertisements and neon signs with full approval of the man.

I think it can be "good art", I do think though that the approval of the owner is needed in order to make it not criminal. Those Advertisements are paid for and the owner of the property gives their approval, if every graffitti had that there would be no problem whatsoever.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
"Graffiti is not art, it's crime," - Tony Blair

What do you think about graffiti art? The professional one. Do you think its art, or is it a vandalism?

I dont think graffiti is vandalism, i generaly believe its art, just outside the studio or museum. But closed minded idiots like Tony Blair come out with sentences like the one above due to the ignorance!

I hate when people think that making something illegal will solve all problems!

I dont believe graffiti should be banned. Not at all. The tag-graffiti should be controled, i agree, but banning it all together is like banning a style of art.

Thoughts?

On Public property I lean towards vandalism

I used to dos graffiti and tagging, meh, it's lulz till you is caught. I am no longer in a gang.