Graffiti - art or vandalism?

Started by Bardock427 pages

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Of course, they perfectly fits the definition of art.

Not any more.

That being?

Originally posted by Bardock42
That being?

Tagging is another word for "graffitti art by using spray paint".

Honestly, how do you not know that?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Tagging is another word for "graffitti art by using spray paint".

Honestly, how do you not know that?

He isn't from the hood like us blood.

Originally posted by The Libertine
Indeed, I say fill Britains Prisons Mr Blair, Oh you have, well fill them some more. What do you mean no room?

ASBOs all round, tag the Chavs!!!!

Well said.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Tagging is an art, ey.

Technically its also vandalism, since its illegal.


I like this, this is interesting.

So it is only vandalism, because it is illegal? What if braking windows was not illegal, would that still be vandalism?
What is vandalism then? Only things which are illegal?

Interesting stuff. Im interested in what you think.

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Obviously graffiti artists are a whole underground subculture. To paint something somewhere, you need permission (at least in Brighton you do) but they are trying to re-name it 'aerosol art' which of course none of the artists want.

There is a lot around Brighton, and they are beautiful...but unfortunately still illegal.
Council does not like it, thats why they are thinking of re-naming it. Then it will be ok. As long as its not called ''graffiti''

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
"Graffiti is not art, it's crime," - Tony Blair

What do you think about graffiti art? The professional one. Do you think its art, or is it a vandalism?

I dont think graffiti is vandalism, i generaly believe its art, just outside the studio or museum. But closed minded idiots like Tony Blair come out with sentences like the one above due to the ignorance!

I hate when people think that making something illegal will solve all problems!

I dont believe graffiti should be banned. Not at all. The tag-graffiti should be controled, i agree, but banning it all together is like banning a style of art.

Thoughts?

graffiti is like interupting someone's speech at a ceromony dedicated to them. It's rude and ntrusive and not very nice. You could argue graffiti is art, but interupting someone's speech is expressing yourself.

It should be illegal, but not to the extreme.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Tagging is another word for "graffitti art by using spray paint".

Honestly, how do you not know that?

Originally posted by The Libertine
He isn't from the hood like us blood.

I ****ing hate you guys.

So, back to my actual question:

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Of course, they perfectly fits the definition of art.

That being?

Originally posted by The Libertine
He isn't from the hood like us blood.

Did you just call me "blood"?

😂 Que lindo, guey?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
So it is only vandalism, because it is illegal? What if braking windows was not illegal, would that still be vandalism?
What is vandalism then? Only things which are illegal?

Vandalism is defacing property that isn't yours, so yeah, breaking a window is vandalism.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Obviously graffiti artists are a whole underground subculture. To paint something somewhere, you need permission (at least in Brighton you do) but they are trying to re-name it 'aerosol art' which of course none of the artists want.

There is a lot around Brighton, and they are beautiful...but unfortunately still illegal.
Council does not like it, thats why they are thinking of re-naming it. Then it will be ok. As long as its not called ''graffiti''

"Aerosol art"???? What the ****!

Originally posted by Bardock42
That being?

Gang symbols.

ARGH

My, slow minded, latino friend....what is your definition of art?

Originally posted by Bardock42
ARGH

My, slow minded, latino friend....what is your definition of art?

Using the imagination to express toughts or ideas in abstract ways.

One thing I don't like is the frivalous use of the word "Art". Like if someone gives an orangatan a brush and an easel, and the ape goes crazy and makes messy blotches every where, and then that's called "art".

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Using the imagination to express toughts or ideas in abstract ways.

One thing I don't like is the frivalous use of the word "Art". Like if someone gives an orangatan a brush and an easel, and the ape goes crazy and makes messy blotches every where, and then that's called "art".

How abstract? Are books art?

Originally posted by Bardock42
How abstract? Are books art?

Visual and sound, primarily.

Art can be literary too. Depends on the book: a car owner's manual? no, but a poetry book? sure.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Visual and sound, primarily.

Art can be literary too. Depends on the book: a car owner's manual? no, but a poetry book? sure.

Okay...though still slightly broad, I'd say.

Some Graffiti is art, but most of it is no different then marking. Instead of piss, we use spray pain.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Some Graffiti is art, but most of it is no different then marking. Instead of piss, we use spray pain.

🤨 That was a dumb comparison.

Graffiti murals take a lot of time, skill, and precision and are clearly art. I can't believe you just compared that to taking a piss.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
🤨 That was a dumb comparison.

Graffiti murals take a lot of time, skill, and precision and are clearly art. I can't believe you just compared that to taking a piss.

You did not read what I wrote!

"Some Graffiti is art," Graffiti murals fit within that "some".

"but most of it is no different then marking."

Animals spend a lot of their resources in marking their territory.

"Instead of piss, we use spray pain." This is me making fun of my own statement.

Re: Graffiti - art or vandalism?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
"Graffiti is not art, it's crime," - Tony Blair

What do you think about graffiti art? The professional one. Do you think its art, or is it a vandalism?

I dont think graffiti is vandalism, i generaly believe its art, just outside the studio or museum. But closed minded idiots like Tony Blair come out with sentences like the one above due to the ignorance!

I hate when people think that making something illegal will solve all problems!

I dont believe graffiti should be banned. Not at all. The tag-graffiti should be controled, i agree, but banning it all together is like banning a style of art.

Thoughts?

Drawing, coloring, scribbling or painting, whatever you want to call it on property that does not belong to you without permission of the owner is a crime.

Would you be alright if the worlds best graffiti artist painted a picture [esp. of something that didn't agree with your taste in art] all over the side of your car or house? Would you still call it "artistic freedom" then?

Originally posted by -hh-
depends on what kind of grafiti...

You're absolutely right. For me, that's what it all comes down to. I think graffiti can be art, and when done tastefully it should be allowed to appear on just about any surface that isn't dedicated to some other function. Some of the graffiti I've seen is really great, even if it's only writing.

However, not all graffiti looks like the picture posted by lil B. A lot of it is little more than bathroom stall chicken scratch and personal attacks that mean nothing to anyone that will ever read it.

So unfortunately this is a case where the negatives outweigh the positives. If everyone who picked up a can of spray paint and coloured a brick wall next to a parking lot did so in a tasteful manner(which is subjective) no one would have an issue with it. But they don't. (speaking of which, the picture you posted lil' B would have been approved or sanctioned by the city government of the town in which the mural appears. I don't think there are a lot of vandals with scaffolding)

Originally posted by Bardock42
How abstract? Are books art?

Put them in a pile light them with a match and I bet you win the Turner prize, particularly given your own cultural context for this action. 😉

Originally posted by The Libertine
Put them in a pile light them with a match and I bet you win the Turner prize, particularly given your own cultural context for this action. 😉

Funny, you sure have to make me certain, don't you?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Funny, you sure have to make me certain, don't you?

About books being art? Of course!