Black Panther versus Batman.

Have any of you actually read a more recent Black Panther story arc to back up your opinions? I mean have you truly sat down and absorbed Priest's writing from arcs like; Lord of the Damned, That Buisness with the Avengers, Enemy of the State, Sturm und Drang....etc. Even Black & White had a degree of mobility and originality concerning the characters and plots that it was in it's own right an amazing arc.

Batman's popularity won't help him when it comes to fighting a character who is more potent than he is. Yes, Batman has an amazing resume when concerning his victories over the overwhelming odds. But guess what? So does the Black Panther and he's had to over come the odds while being under written by most writers in past and recent years. Batman needs to step over and let the King handle things.

yea the batman fanboys r making some real onesided arguments...Black Panther is far from second rate...single handedly beating modern Magneto? not many guys can get away with that, certainly not second rate guys.

Batman surviving to being hit from Darkseid?What a prove of crap writing.
We have T'Challa, the Black Panther, that possess:
Peak human strenght, he can lift 750 lbs.
Peak human speed, agility, and superhuman senses.He's a great martial artist.
He possess a vibranium suit and energy daggers, and vibranium fangs on his gloves.He can run up wall, fall from 10floors height buildings without being hurted.He has go head to head with foes like Alkhema, an ADAMANTIUM android, and survive that, he fight alone against her before the Avengers arrived, and survive.He goes head to head with Red Skull, physically equal to Captain America, defeat him and totally rip apart his jaw with a punch.
Batman his HUMAN TOTALLY.He's not enhanced like T'Challa.His costume is made of kevlar, nothing compared to vibranium.Batman survive to Darkseid hits thank to the Mother Box, so that doesn't count.
And why don't we talk about Batman against superpowered beings, when Triumph, the JLA member that unleash a Djinn on Keystone City attacks the Watch Tower, Batman attacks him from behind and gets knocked out with one punch.This is what Batman do when he goes head to head with heavyweights.He goes DOWN.Not all the powerhouses possess kryptonite.There isn't a plan for everything.
This is a fist fight, not a mastermind situation, is Black Panther against Batman, The Panther and The Bat, T'Challa against Bruce Wayne.
T'Challa his more resistant than him, and Batman without prep time has to challenge someone that physically superior to him, has better protection, and has more strenght.
BP will wipe the floor with him after complimenting Bat for his fighting skills.

All of my views of Batman are being derived from mostly his performance during HUSH. Which I admit was way above average for a mere human. Batman has got the technology, skill and intelligence to be a great challenge for Panther. That's not at all in question. But when it comes down to it the Panther has nearly all the same resources and more. Not to mention the fact that he's stronger, faster and more durable. That has got to count for something.

Stronger, faster and more durable. Thats nice. Batman can benchpress 725lbs. Panthers stats on the website in durabilty are 3 which are not bad but alot of character have a 3. His speed is a 2 which is quite normal among normal humans. His intelligence is a respectable 5 but Batman is smarter than that. So why do you guys think this is a one sided fight?

Oh I forgot his fighting skills are a decent 4. Everyone knows Batsy would rate at the highest at a 7.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Stronger, faster and more durable. Thats nice. Batman can benchpress 725lbs. Panthers stats on the website in durabilty are 3 which are not bad but alot of character have a 3. His speed is a 2 which is quite normal among normal humans. His intelligence is a respectable 5 but Batman is smarter than that. So why do you guys think this is a one sided fight?

I know how strong BP is. I didnt say Batsy was stronger. They are pretty close. Yea Batman is smarter and do not deny it. The only reason Wakanda is a rich nation is cause of Vibranium being a natural resource there. They are both equal as you can get and Batman does not loose to people his equal.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I know how strong BP is. I didnt say Batsy was stronger. They are pretty close. Yea Batman is smarter and do not deny it. The only reason Wakanda is a rich nation is cause of Vibranium being a natural resource there. They are both equal as you can get and Batman does not loose to people his equal.

Black Panther wins.

As far as I see it DC's standards for their pinnacle of human perfection is ranked much lower than Marvel's. T'Challa had to train for years to be the pinnacle of what was humanly possible before he was able to take the heart shaped herb. That means all of his strengths and skills were already peaking at what they were suppose to be before the fact he went through the training to go and fetch the herb from the White Apes. I'd assume that he was practically at the same level as Batman before he took the Wakandan herb which pushed him to the limits. Black Panther rivals Batman in many areas including skills, resources, intelligence but he would stomp on Batman in the physical department. He's all that much stronger, faster and more durable. Batman would try and stay 5 steps ahead of Black Panther knowing that he'd be fighting a superior opponent...but then Black Panther would stay seven ahead. Batman is just outmatched. He'd give it his all but in the end he'd just burn out.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I know how strong BP is. I didnt say Batsy was stronger. They are pretty close. Yea Batman is smarter and do not deny it. The only reason Wakanda is a rich nation is cause of Vibranium being a natural resource there. They are both equal as you can get and Batman does not loose to people his equal.

Um...vibranium is a valuable substance...so are diamonds...but there are a lot of poor ass countries full of diamonds in Africa...Wakanda's wealth isnt based on Vibranium, its based on their managent of vibranium, technology, and an all around good government.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Stronger, faster and more durable. Thats nice. Batman can benchpress 725lbs. Panthers stats on the website in durabilty are 3 which are not bad but alot of character have a 3. His speed is a 2 which is quite normal among normal humans. His intelligence is a respectable 5 but Batman is smarter than that. So why do you guys think this is a one sided fight?

And that's why you shouldn't put any faith in those stats, they are usually off, compared to what they actually show them do in the comics. I'll admit, I haven't read much Black Panther, but from what I have read, he's well above just a 2 in speed, and would be at least a 6 showing what he's accomplished, especially in his first appearance.

6 is equivilant to the speed of light. If BP moves at the speed of light then then he can beat just about anybody.

Well, he's no 2, no doubt about that. He's faster that you're average street level.

Word. Especially considering that his speed and dexterity is enhanced not only by the herb he took after his intensive training but by the very suit he wears. After reading Black Panther : Black & White It's apparent that the Black Panther's suit enhances the wearers speed, agility, dexterity nearly ten fold. For example, Kasper Cole a normal human being was able to trail up ceilings and perform maneuvers that aren't in the everyday activity of a day to day man. He was moving like he was Spiderman and that's WITHOUT him having any sort of training or genetic enhancements. Just think what the suit does for the Black Panther who's at the pinnacle of human strength etc.. Batman's outmatched.

Just by putting on a suit his power is enhanced ten fold. That sounds kinda gay to me. But the more power to him I guess. Sorry Batsy but you need to get a Vibranium suit and get some of those special Herbs T' Challa smokes.

Panther's micro weave suit is very durable in the face of conventional and most unconventional types wear and tear but it's by no means indestructible. It's not the main focus of Black Panther's myriad of strengths which also include his forceful martial arts skills, tactical and technological intelligence as well as his enhanced senses which range from enhanced strength, speed, agility, night visions, sense of smell, tracking abilities. Etc. I just see all of his natural abilities mixed with those of his technological and militaristic capabilities to be more than enough to rival and eventually down the Batman. It wouldn't be an easy fight considering the resume Bats has but then Panther's got a pretty impressive list of " Who can I beat? " as well. Not to mention that Batman also carries a personal arsenal that could rival that of a small army or nation. I just think Panther being just as skilled and as intelligence would find his advantages in his endurance, speed, strength as well as his over all durability which in my opinion is higher than Bruce's.

These are some interesting stuff. I don't know what to say and where to begin. I wounder if black panthers suit can absorb such waves from one of the batarangs. And let me remind each and every one of you as the vibranium absorbs the momentum from the batarang it is going to fall down in-front, behind, left or right of black panther so is the vibranium capable of protecting the panther from blast capable of putting down a couple of doomdays to the ground? These doomdays dough defects of a clone still sent superman flying across thermiscira. So as you guys can see I have just found a major weakness in the black panther suit. And batman exploits all weakness that an opponent may show.

The batman has technology from different dimensions Technology from Krypton, New Gods, Apocalypse There is no way that the panther could easily surpass the batman in technology and in resources. Even then Ternagarian tech.

Batman is more intelligent that the panther could ever hope to believe. And ask for skills well he mastered every martial arts in DCU.

The panther tries to outfights people who are his equal but the batman does not try to out fights he puts you down on the spot even people who are his equals.

The only thing that panther has an advantage in is his strength, speed, agility, and this is not going to give him the win. Panther is going to beat the batman due to his enhance strength, speed, and agility but in the end it is the batman who is going to be standing over the panthers body saying, "you are good but too bad all your enhance capabilities could not land you a win."

The mother box is now probably part of the batman's arsenal and that mother box can fit nicely in that belt of his. And get this he does not have to take it out for it to work. For does of you who do not know what a mother box is it is a new god Tech. design to constandly healing its user, and it also puts a shield. In orderwords batman can take a bullet in a fatal area he will be knocked out but he will not die.

that doesnt reveal anything, those Doomsday clones were weak ass punks...every member of the JLA was killing them...they might as well have been foot soldiers or storm troopers