The Bible

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Re: Re: The Bible: did the Bible evolve over billions of years?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Stupid!

What is meant by the bible has evolved over time is that the bible has be translated, edited, reinterpreted and flat out changed over time. This type of evolution has nothing to do with biological evolution.

And...you totally missed my point.

Try again (just maybe you'll get it on the second go-around).

Re: Re: Re: The Bible: did the Bible evolve over billions of years?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You just described the theory that [b]you espouse stupid.

What is the difference between what I wrote and the theory of evolution that you embrace? [/B]


🙄 What are you talking about?

Evolution = the fact that things change over time. Example: The laws of the US have evolved from the time of the founding of the country to the present day.

Re: Re: Re: Re: The Bible: did the Bible evolve over billions of years?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
🙄 What are you talking about?

Evolution = the fact that things change over time. Example: The laws of the US have evolved from the time of the founding of the country to the present day.

Show me one peer-reviewed article that describes evolution (in the macroevolutionary sense in reference to biological life) as a fact. (Just one.)

Re: Re: Re: Re: The Bible: did the Bible evolve over billions of years?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
🙄 What are you talking about?

Evolution = the fact that things change over time. Example: The laws of the US have evolved from the time of the founding of the country to the present day.

I am talking about the parallel between what I wrote about the Bible and the present theory of the origin of life.

What is the difference between the two ideas?

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Bible: did the Bible evolve over billions of years?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Show me [B]one peer-reviewed article that describes evolution (in the macroevolutionary sense in reference to biological life) as a fact. [/B]

I'm not talking about biological evolution.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Bible: did the Bible evolve over billions of years?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I am talking about the parallel between what I wrote about the Bible and the present theory of the origin of life.

What is the difference between the two ideas?

I see no parallel.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Bible: did the Bible evolve over billions of years?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I'm not talking about biological evolution.

But I am. (Do you still not grasp my point?)

😕

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Bible: did the Bible evolve over billions of years?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But I am. (Do you still not grasp my point?)

😕

You don't have a point. Apples and oranges.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
Strong case of dumbassery on your part.

Edit: As for your case, there are a couple of answers that I will give.

Scenario 1: In your world where evolution and abiogenesis does not occur, the bible will not evolve.

Scenario 2: In a world where evolution occurs but not abiogenesis, the bible would not evolve based on Cell Theory.

Scenario 3: In a world of abiogenesis and evolution, the bible itself wouldn't evolve, but if humanity died and things like books rotted over time, the atoms and molecules that once made up that one bible might find themselves in a chemically active (ie good for chemical reactions) environment.

Editx2: What Shaky is saying below me is how the bible really evolves. Call it artificial selection if you will.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Bible: did the Bible evolve over billions of years?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I see no parallel.

Life: the short of the long is that the theory of evolution postulates that life descended from inorganic matter.

Bible: My parallel shows the absurdity of the chance of biological evidence occurring from inorganic matter is to use the Bible (i.e. inorganic matter) as my case in point. If life (as complicated as it is) can arise from inorganic matter (as the theory of evolution purports) then so can the Bible (despite its complexity).

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Bible: did the Bible evolve over billions of years?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You don't have a point. Apples and oranges.

How do you know that the Bible is not evolving right now? (I have a point to all of this).

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Bible: did the Bible evolve over billions of years?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
How do you know that the Bible is not evolving right now? (I have a point to all of this).

When you say evolving, what do you mean?

a: Evolve like law will evolve over time.

b: Biological evolution.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]Life: the short of the long is that the theory of evolution postulates that life descended from inorganic matter.

Bible: My parallel shows the absurdity of the chance of biological evidence occurring from inorganic matter is to use the Bible (i.e. inorganic matter) as my case in point. If life (as complicated as it is) can arise from inorganic matter (as the theory of evolution purports) then so can the Bible (despite its complexity). [/B]

I never said life came from inorganic matter. The first life came from organic matter brought to the Earth by comets.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Bible: did the Bible evolve over billions of years?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
When you say evolving, what do you mean?

a: Evolve like law will evolve over time.

b: Biological evolution.

You are doing it again. You are deliberately feigning ignorance of what I am talking about to avoid conceding the absurdity in what you believe.

I mean biological evolution.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
How do you know that the Bible is not evolving right now? (I have a point to all of this).

Maybe he means how the translations are different now?

Originally posted by debbiejo
Maybe he mean how the translations are different now?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]Life: the short of the long is that the theory of evolution postulates that life descended from inorganic matter.

Bible: My parallel shows the absurdity of the chance of biological evidence occurring from inorganic matter is to use the Bible (i.e. inorganic matter) as my case in point. If life (as complicated as it is) can arise from inorganic matter (as the theory of evolution purports) then so can the Bible (despite its complexity). [/B]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Bible: did the Bible evolve over billions of years?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You are doing it again. You are deliberately feigning ignorance of what I am talking about to avoid conceding the absurdity in what you believe.

I mean biological evolution.

The bible is a book and it is not alive, so asking if it would evolve in a biological evolutionary way is stupid and comparing apples and oranges.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Bible: did the Bible evolve over billions of yea

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The bible is a book and it is not alive, so ask if it would evolve in a biological evolutionary way is stupid and comparing apples and oranges.

Neither are the gases and other matter that allegedly evolved into a cell according to evolutionary theory. But yet you still believe it. So how is it apples and oranges? How do you know that the Bible is not evolving into a biological entity? (I have a point).

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Bible: did the Bible evolve over billions of

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Neither are the gases and other matter that allegedly evolved into a cell according to evolutionary theory. But yet you still believe it. So how is it apples and oranges? How do you know that the Bible is not evolving into a biological entity? (I have a point).

You don't have a point and you don't understand biological evolution.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Life: the short of the long is that the theory of evolution postulates that life descended from inorganic matter.

Wrong. The theory evolution proposes that speciation occurs over time, i.e. that living things share a common ancestor. The theory of evolution does not claim that organic matter came from inorganic matter; that is a separate hypothesis altogether. Therefore, this is a False Analogy:

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]Bible: My parallel shows the absurdity of the chance of biological evidence occurring from inorganic matter is to use the Bible (i.e. inorganic matter) as my case in point. If life (as complicated as it is) can arise from inorganic matter (as the theory of evolution purports) then so can the Bible (despite its complexity). [/B]

FAIL.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/10/1002_031002_cometstudy.html