The Bible

Started by dadudemon147 pages

Originally posted by Bardock42
"Albert Einstein made fundamental contributions to the development of quantum mechanics. However, he was never satisfied with the quantum worldview. In fact, during most of his life he attempted to find inconsistencies and paradoxes within quantum mechanics. His famous quote "God does not play dice" shows how disturbing was to Einstein one of the most important aspects of quantum mechanics: non-determinism. In this paper we will present the basic concepts of quantum mechanics, we will describe Einstein's attempts to destroy it and we will discuss why we can nowadays state that, in this regard, Albert Einstein was not right."

"God" in a quotation in an entirely unreligious way

"We measure the 2-point correlation function, xi(AG), between galaxies and quasar absorption line systems at z<1, using the dataset of Morris & Jannuzi (2006; paper I) on 16 lines of sight (LOS) with UV spectroscopy and galaxy multi-object spectroscopy. The measurements are made in 2-D redshift space out to pi=20/h Mpc (comoving) along the LOS and out to 2/h Mpc projected; as a function of HI column density in the range N(HI) = 1E13-1E19 cm^-2, for CIV systems and as a function of galaxy spectral type. This extends the absorber-galaxy pair count analysis of paper I. We find that the peak amplitude of xi(AG) at the smallest separations increases slowly as the lower limit on N(HI) is increased from 1E13 to 1E16 cm^-2, and then jumps sharply (albeit with substantial uncertainty) at N(HI)>1E17 cm^-2. For CIV absorbers, the peak strength of xi(AG) is comparable to that of HI absorbers with N(HI)>1E16.5 cm^-2.
We do not reproduce the differences reported by Chen et al. between 1-D xi(AG) measurements using galaxy sub-samples of different spectral types, but the full impact of systematic differences in our samples is hard to quantify. We compare the observations with smoothed particle hydrodynamical (SPH) simulations and discover that in the observations xi(AG) is more concentrated to the smallest separations than in the simulations. The latter also display a `finger of god' elongation of xi(AG) along the LOS in redshift space, which is absent from our data, but similar to that found by Ryan-Weber for the cross-correlation of quasar absorbers and HI-emission-selected galaxies. The physical origin of these `fingers of god' is unclear and we highlight several possible areas for further investigation."

"finger of god" no God to explain anything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingers_of_God

"Einstein initially objected to the probabilistic aspect of quantum mechanics - the idea that God is playing at dice. Later he changed his ground, and focussed instead on the point that the Copenhagen Interpretation leads to what Einstein saw as the abandonment of physical realism. We argue here that Einstein's initial intuition was perfectly sound, and that it is precisely the fact that quantum mechanics is a fundamentally probabilistic theory which is at the root of all the controversies regarding its interpretation. Probability is an intrinsically logical concept. This means that the quantum state has an essentially logical significance. It is extremely difficult to reconcile that fact with Einstein's belief, that it is the task of physics to give us a vision of the world apprehended sub specie aeternitatis. Quantum mechanics thus presents us with a simple choice: either to follow Einstein in looking for a theory which is not probabilistic at the fundamental level, or else to accept that physics does not in fact put us in the position of God looking down on things from above. There is a widespread fear that the latter alternative must inevitably lead to a greatly impoverished, positivistic view of physical theory. It appears to us, however, that the truth is just the opposite. The Einsteinian vision is much less attractive than it seems at first sight. In particular, it is closely connected with philosophical reductionism."

Again, Einstein's concept of God, in no way relating to what you claim.

http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0604217 Finger of God again

http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0507220 God used as an analogy

http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0410245 "God given" as euphemism for axiom

Man, full of shit dude, it...it just doesn't look good for you.

Maybe, avoid the thread for a few pages and then come back totally disregarding what has been said earlier?

Fail.

That is the context in which I was using god...They even go as far as to capitalize the word god a few times. I don't even do that! (Though, I sometimes make a typo out of habit.) You my friend do not read worth a crap! 😠 😠 😠

Originally posted by dadudemon
Fail.

That is the context in which I was using god...They even go as far as to capitalize the word god a few times. I don't even do that! (Though, I sometimes make a typo out of habit.) You my friend do not read worth a crap! 😠 😠 😠

If there has been a misunderstanding it is entirely due to your inability to use the English language properly.

If you actually studied astrophysics, you would know that sometimes, things are attributed to God...

You either misused the word "attributed" and "God" or you changed your approach half way through after I handed you your ass. I like to believe the latter, though either does not make it look like I failed.

Good that we can drop it now that you understood and/or made yourself clear though.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That was just a way of saying he is not as likely as other possible explanations. It wasn't literal, though in a way meant to offend Marchello, as he annoys me.

And if you want to put me in my place do it with something I am wrong about or you have a knowledge of.

failed debating tactic-continually say the other person does not know what they are talking about.

Sorry, bud. You were wrong, I proved you wrong, you proved you wrong. There is no debate anymore.

You made a tacky statement, I defended it without proof, you provided the proof that I was right...so now you have the tackiness and proving yourself wrong against you...maybe you should wait a couple of pages before posting again.

Just embarrassing dude.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Fail.

That is the context in which I was using god...They even go as far as to capitalize the word god a few times. I don't even do that! (Though, I sometimes make a typo out of habit.) You my friend do not read worth a crap! 😠 😠 😠

Now you are just flaming

Originally posted by dadudemon
failed debating tactic-continually say the other person does not know what they are talking about.

Sorry, bud. You were wrong, I proved you wrong, you proved you wrong. There is no debate anymore.

You made a tacky statement, I defended it without proof, you provided the proof that I was right...so now you have the tackiness and proving yourself wrong against you...maybe you should wait a couple of pages before posting again.

Just embarrassing dude.

Look, full of shit dude, whatever, you believe that you proved me wrong and you believe in God .... nothing more has to be said.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You either misused the word "attributed" and "God" or you changed your approach half way through after I handed you your ass. I like to believe the latter, though either does not make it look like I failed.

No, I told you that was a typo out of habit. I meant to make it lower case...and actually now that I think about it...it should have been in quotes as well. Things all the time are attributed to "god" in physics...though it is only a way of justification and conversation...not that they actually believe in a god. That was my point from the begining...I was using this example to show you that you are crossing the line, because even the scientific community still uses "god" in their work.

Originally posted by TRH
Now you are just flaming

So now you have something against gays!!!! 😠 😠 😠 😠

Originally posted by dadudemon
No, I told you that was a typo out of habit. I meant to make it lower case...and actually now that I think about it...it should have been in quotes as well. Things all the time are attributed to "god" in physics...though it is only a way of justification and conversation...not that they actually believe in a god. That was my point from the begining...I was using this example to show you that you are crossing the line, because even the scientific community still uses "god" in their work.

That would not change anything. It is still not attributed to "god". As I have shown you.

And even if that was your intention it was poor because I never slandered "deism" or any other form of secular god definition ... I was specifically referring to "God" and other personalized entities.

May I ask what your qualifications in physics are?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Look, full of shit dude, whatever, you believe that you proved me wrong and you believe in God .... nothing more has to be said.

I do believe in God...but I don't make fun of other's religion and I try to never let my religion enter into my empirical studies because it is wrong in my opinion. I am not on a crusade to prove god exists through science...I will leave that to the quacks.

I agree, nothing more has to be said.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I do believe in God...but I don't make fun of other's religion and I try to never let my religion enter into my empirical studies because it is wrong in my opinion. I am not on a crusade to prove god exists through science...I will leave that to the quacks.

I agree, nothing more has to be said.

I do, I make fun of Religions constantly...though there are reasons...organized Religion is ridiculous in so many ways.

And: May I ask what your qualifications in physics are?

Originally posted by Bardock42
I do, I make fun of Religions constantly...though there are reasons...organized Religion is ridiculous in so many ways.

And: May I ask what your qualifications in physics are?

Why do you want to know so bad? If you were observant...you would almost know what my qualifications were...you would even know that I also studied to go to med school. (But quit about a year and half into it because I got maried.)

Tell me your reaons first. And be honest.

Originally posted by dadudemon
So now you have something against gays!!!! 😠 😠 😠 😠
What?....no you redneck

Originally posted by TRH
What?....no you redneck

So now you have something against rednecks? 😠 😠 😠

Originally posted by dadudemon
So now you have something against rednecks? 😠 😠 😠
No,settle down

Originally posted by TRH
No,settle down

Dude, I was joking both times.

I could care less about Bardocks view on teh biblez and "God"...I was bored and wanted something to do and he is a very good person to debate with...

That is what I meant earlier when I said I wasn't really ticked off.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Dude, I was joking both times.

I could care less about Bardocks view on teh biblez and "God"...I was bored and wanted something to do and he is a very good person to debate with...

That is what I meant earlier when I said I wasn't really ticked off.

There really isn't a lot of room for childish nonsense around here

Originally posted by TRH
There really isn't a lot of room for childish nonsense around here

Sorry dad.

You are so cool. I wish I was a little morelike you.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Sorry dad.

You are so cool. I wish I was a little morelike you.

Thanks

Originally posted by TRH
Thanks

I hope you think I wasn't jokng? I was damned serious. I usually imbede my sarcasm in sarcasm tags. Seriously.

Originally posted by Marchello
(c)If there were a logical argument that proved that God did not exist...it has not yet been made known. If it were known then it would be in use by atheists. But since NO PROOF of God's NON-EXISTENCE has been successfully defended by atheists, we can conclude that thus far, that there are no logical proofs for God's non-existence.

LMAO! What a moron!

There is no proof of the non-existence of the little green pixie with the red hair and wings on his elbows either.
So I guess my pixie has as much standing as your God.

But if you attack, oppress and interfere in the lives of people based on the words of your supposed God YOUHAD BETTER have definate proof it even exists, don't you think??!!!.
Or keep you mouths shut and youyr deluded oppinions to yourself.