The Bible

Originally posted by WindDancer
Morningstar>True different beliefs and different ways of thinking. That's what makes conversations interesting. This would be one dull world if we all think the same.

True true. Its hard tho when ur beliefs are so different to other ppls. LIke one of my friends is satanist/gothic and its hard coz we'll randomly get onto a topic that we both disagree on and end up on a frayed temper . . . . . . . 😛 but (and here i go for a really sad cliche) variety is the spice of life *grins*

oh and nice pic yers!

There is such a painful difference between what Christianity is meant to be, and what it actually often is.
And I'll go with Fact, if only for the sake of a nice chunky "discussion."

Hmmm, the Bible might be very idealised, and so forth (it was written by Christs followers and others, meaning it is possible the fanatic beliefs could have influenced it) but that aside, there is some very good historical evidence that various events in the bible actually occurred. The Roman commander who crucified Christ actually existed and was in the province at that time, there is evidence at early Sumerian sites that shows there was a flood that, to small, fragile communities probably was like the end of the world.... the Israelites did leave Egypt.... so a goodly amount of fact exists in the bible.........

It is just the New testament that has been written by the followers of christ, not the entire bible.

the Israelites did leave Egypt.... so a goodly amount of fact exists in the bible.........

Actually yes it does, but not anywhere near the scale of what is presented in the Bible. The Egyptians had a few hundred slaves at most, not anything like the thousands upon thousands mentioned in the Bible. The Bible seems like the entire nation of Jews were enslaved. There's no mention of Moses in Egyptian records though.

The bible says the entire army of the Faroe was "consumed " by the sea. If Egypt lost its entire army or just the entire cavalry it would make them an easy preay for enemys any enemy eager to invade

True, but that is what I implied by the fact it is highly idealised by Christs actual followers, or those who believe. Naturally they are probably going to exaggerate a bit. But that is the thing, the are many kernels of fact, just somewhat exaggerated., which could be intentional, or due to the flow of time.

ehh the thing about the exodus is a jewish thing as much it is a chrisitan thing. They both share the old testament as part of their holy book

True, which adds something to the likely hood there are facts in the bible that are supported historically and by other religions (granted, they are very similar religions, but still).

Every religion has minor aspects of their "history" which are similar.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
True, which adds something to the likely hood there are facts in the bible that are supported historically

okay wants some facts battle of armageddion will take place at megiddo and that is a big field in the middle east they also found sodom and gomorra that was destroyed oh yeah the battle between david and goliath was a giant and they found a body skeletion that is seventeen feet tall so giants were real oh yeah tonight I just heard a word from a preacher about the rapture of the church he gave a vision of a cloud over new york city as it moved people vanished who were saved and then the cloud spread to the rest of the world one day everyone will see this me I will to the thing is some will be left and that time you will wish that you had took bible seriously.The bible is the true word hell even the temple is getting ready to be rebuilt when the wall on temple mount where mosque is and that will make room sorry being so serious but it is the truth.

also found sodom and gomorra that was destroyed oh yeah the battle between david and goliath was a giant and they found a body skeletion that is seventeen feet tall so giants were real

The egyptians believed everything potrayed on the walls was a reflection of how you will be seen in the afterlife, so they didnt depict anything negative that happened in their life time.

they had scriptures besides their walls paintings

Hmmm, I am studying history (and religion plays a part in a lot of history), and what I have suggested is based upon archaeological evidence, and the like, sadly it is hard finding the evidence on the net that is not written by "biblical nuts", and those that are written by universities and scholars are rather intense, still, if you would like some I shall post them.
These following sites however focus on particular biblical events and show archaeological evidence that supports them (to a degree) - and they are written by open minded people and researchers:

http://www.the-highway.com/flood_Wilson.html

http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/archaeology/sites/middle_east/jericho.html

Imperial_Samurai> Since when is this Clifford Wilson "Open-minded"? Pacific College is a small religious school run by ths guy, and he's a close associate of Carl Baugh, who chas a degree from this ubaccredited institution. Carl Baugh is best known as a tireless proponent of the claim that human footprints appear alongside dinosaur tracks in the Paluxy Riverbed of Glen Rose, Texas.
The second link... ehrm... who wrote that??? The link at the bottom doesn't even work.

Open-minded "Researchers"?? I doubt it.

The second link... ehrm... who wrote that??? The link at the bottom doesn't even work.

Well, perhaps open minded is to strong a word, but one can allow for conviction, after all, even researchers have beliefs sometimes. However, while Clifford Wilson may appear a bit out there sometimes, to some extent he has had moments, such as that one, where he has utilised solid archaeological evidence to support his hypothesis. This was just to elaborate that there is a growing recognition among researchers in the humanities that the bible actually does contain facts, that there is evidence there was a flood. Or that the walls of Jericho did mysteriously fall at the time the Israelites were passing. However I am not saying that God caused the flood, or the walls to fall, but that is secondary to the fact it appears the bibles creators drew upon real facts as something of a basis for their "religion" or "myths" depending on how one views it.