The Islamic faith kind of was in "hibernation", they was awaken by Muhammad coming to them with the Koran. In other words it actually started then, technically speaking.
Just as with christianity they believe in the same god as the jews but the christian faith didnt start until after the alleged death and resurrection of jesus
But wasn't Mohammed credited with being the founder of the religion in about the year 500?according to their believes is that it starts with the Hijra(when Muhammed emigrated to Medina) in 622 AD.
There has always been a large number of religion, but yes, Zoroastrianism was a major Monotheistic religion at the time, and for some time afterwards, it was the state religion of the Sassanian Persian Empire (which was part of the "big three", the Christian East and West, the Islamic states and the Zoroastrian Persians)
And, I think a Jewish person can still be Jewish, regardless of religion, just as a Chinese Buddhist who converts to Christianity can still say they are Chinese, just Christian now.....
Imperial_Samurai> There is a BIG difference between a fanatic saying "The sky is blue", which is there for all to see, and the same fanatic claiming that the walls of Jericho fell because some Israelis walked past. In the latter case it's NOt there for all to see.
And again... Who else is there to back up this guys claim? If he's the ONLY one, and it's not accepted among archaeologist... What does that say about his credibility?
En strøm af interstellare atomer suser netop nu gennem solsystemet. Forskere mener, at strømmen er en del af en gigantisk interstellar gassky, som solsystemet befinder sig midt i.
Heldigvis er vores stjernesystem i bedste science fiction-stil udstyret med et skjold. En gigantisk magnetisk bobel kaldet heliosfæren omkranser alle ni planeter, og den har før hjulpet vores klode mod eksploderende stjerner.
Carbon14:
Isotope dating takes advantage of the fact that radioactive materials break down at a rate independent of their environment. Any solid object that formed containing radioactive materials therefore steadily loses them to decay. If it is possible to compare the amount of radioactive material currently present with the amount originally present, one can deduce how long ago the object was formed. The amount originally present cannot, of course, be observed directly, but can be determined by indirect means, such as identifying the decay products.
C-14 dating uses an unstable isotope of carbon that is constantly being produced in the upper atmosphere by cosmic rays. This process is assumed to be in equilibrium with the decay of C-14 throughout the biosphere, so the proportion of carbon that is C-14 as opposed to the stable C-12 and C-13 isotopes is essentially constant in any living organism. When an organism dies, it stops taking up new carbon from its environment, but the C-14 in its body continues to decay. By measuring the amount of C-14 left in organic remains, one can establish how long ago the organism they came from died. Because C-14 has a half-life of only a few thousand years, C-14 dating can only be used for remains less than a few tens of thousands of years old-- after that, the C-14 is entirely gone, to all practical purposes. Other isotopic dating techniques, such as potassium-argon dating, use much longer-lived radionuclides and can reliably measure dates billions of years in the past.
Actually the production rate isn't all that constant, so the amount of C-14 in the biosphere varies somewhat with time. You also need to be sure that the only source of carbon for the organism was atmospheric carbon (via plants). The nominal date from a C-14 reading, based on the present concentration, therefore has to be corrected to get the real date --- but once the correction has been calculated using an independent dating tool like dendrochronology (see below), it can be applied to almost any sample.
There are some known anomalies in C14 dating, such as molluscs that get their carbon from water. Creationists seem to make a habit of taking samples that are known to be useless for C14 dating, presenting them to scientists for examination, representing them as other than they are, and then claiming the anomalous dates they get for them as evidence that C14 dating is all a sham.
While it is true that there may be unknown errors in some dating methods (see the note in section 0 about science "proving" things) this assertion cannot be used to write off isotope dating as evidence of an ancient Earth. This is because:
There are several independent ways of dating objects, including radio-isotopes, dendrochronology, position in rock strata etc. These all give a consistent picture.
Dating methods all point to an old Earth, about half a million times older than the Creationists claim. This requires dating methods which are accurate up to 6,000 years ago and then suddenly start to give completely wrong (but still consistent) answers. Even if our dating methods are out by a factor of 10 or 100, the earth is still thousands of times older than Creationists claim.
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
And, I think a Jewish person can still be Jewish, regardless of religion, just as a Chinese Buddhist who converts to Christianity can still say they are Chinese, just Christian now.....
The difference is that that person is of Jewish descent, not of the Jewish faith then.
Originally posted by jv1410
Forget about Bible. It is created by man. End of discussion.
Lets talk about GOD. If at all there is a god in this vast universe he would show us his middle finger and tell us to get lost.
Why would he care for us.
True, the bible was wrote by man but thats not a reason to discredit it. Those men were direct and guided by God. When you pray to God for guidance, direction so forth, God will direct you to scriptures, now why is that? if the bible is nothing. When you are going thru a difficult time in your life and you are praying to God for direction, he gives you a scripture. The bible is the Word of God, a guidance to your everyday life. 🙂
Originally posted by jv1410
Forget about Bible. It is created by man. End of discussion.
Lets talk about GOD. If at all there is a god in this vast universe he would show us his middle finger and tell us to get lost.
Why would he care for us.
The world is full of shitty shit, just because you live comfortably doesn't make the world perfect. Millions of people die of starvation every year. there are countries in Africa that have %40+ of their population dying of AIDS, There are hundreds of wars taking place, and innocent people die violent deaths every day. Trust me our world is ****ed.
Originally posted by Turbo-Cajun
The world is full of shitty shit, just because you live comfortably doesn't make the world perfect. Millions of people die of starvation every year. there are countries in Africa that have %40+ of their population dying of AIDS, There are hundreds of wars taking place, and innocent people die violent deaths every day. Trust me our world is ****ed.
Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
True, the bible was wrote by man but thats not a reason to discredit it. Those men were direct and guided by God. When you pray to God for guidance, direction so forth, God will direct you to scriptures, now why is that? if the bible is nothing. When you are going thru a difficult time in your life and you are praying to God for direction, he gives you a scripture. The bible is the Word of God, a guidance to your everyday life. 🙂
Exactly and I agree completly. God inspired those men to write the Bible, Revelations for example, is book about the future and in the beginning, John says how God showed him all of these things.
If there is a heaven, that is great I'm glad. However all evidence so far is unconvincing so say the least.
And I have donated time and money to helping the poor before, I am unable right now to donate like I would like to. I have protested the war on several occasions, and have worked to improve political awareness in my community. However I think that once I finish school and become a teacher I will be able to help improve lives and change things for the better. If you believe in an after life, enjoy wartime and aids, don't worry God will have your back after you die. Those of you out there that are not so sure about such things as heaven, i think you agree that things suck, because the only thing we have for certain is the time we have on earth, and earth isn't as sweet a place to live as it could be.