Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Maybe someone not named Hal Jordan or Kyle Rayner or Alan Scott.
I disagree.
They don't have the power to put him down. The only thing they are doing or will be doing is prolonging a beat down.
Supes 8/10 and the 2 that I give them is based off of bfring in which they rarely if ever use during combat.
Originally posted by carver9
I disagree.They don't have the power to put him down. The only thing they are doing or will be doing is prolonging a beat down.
Supes 8/10 and the 2 that I give them is based off of bfring in which they rarely if ever use during combat.
I strongly disagree, especially on Alan's part.
Their basic constructs/beams/blasts/etc have damaged beings on Superman's level and above. Based on their history as a whole, it's kinda foolhardy to assume they can't damage him or beat him.
And that's just Hal/Kyle. Alan would be a bigger problem for Kal by far.
Originally posted by carver9Hal has the power to do as as does Alan. I don't hold much if any hope for Kyle Rayner though.
I disagree.They don't have the power to put him down. The only thing they are doing or will be doing is prolonging a beat down.
Supes 8/10 and the 2 that I give them is based off of bfring in which they rarely if ever use during combat.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I strongly disagree, especially on Alan's part.Their basic constructs/beams/blasts/etc have damaged beings on Superman's level and above. Based on their history as a whole, it's kinda foolhardy to assume they can't damage him or beat him.
And that's just Hal/Kyle. Alan would be a bigger problem for Kal by far.
I agree, they could damage him but to a certain extent and not enough to pull a win imo. Like I said before, Supes along with other people in Supes tier (Black Mary for starters) has easily shown that they could bust through top GL's shields and constructs.
They will make it a fight (kyle or hal) but it will not be to the point where they could pull wins outside of bfring imo.
Originally posted by quanchi112
How does going through a few constructs translate into easily defeating hal jordan.
Because after busting through his constructs she one shotted his shielding and almost killed him until he was saved. That pretty much sums it up. The only way any of the GL shields is lasting against Supes is if we just use their high end showings but outside of that, they are getting drop.
How about this... name me a time Kyle or Hal has actually went up against and defeated someone in Supes tier outside of exploting weaknesses or BFR.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And Alan's made constructs that have restrained Black Mary and an evil Captain Marvel. And John Stewart's ring has damaged Superman via attacking his retinas. And Hal Jordan has hurt Superboy Prime.
And who has Alan, Kyle, or Hal taken out that is on Supes level (please don't use classic scans)?
Originally posted by carver9Which comic is this showing from ? Give me an issue number because I never trust your replay of events.
Because after busting through his constructs she one shotted his shielding and almost killed him until he was saved. That pretty much sums it up. The only way any of the GL shields is lasting against Supes is if we just use their high end showings but outside of that, they are getting drop.How about this... name me a time Kyle or Hal has actually went up against and defeated someone in Supes tier outside of exploting weaknesses or BFR.
Originally posted by carver9
Because after busting through his constructs she one shotted his shielding and almost killed him until he was saved. That pretty much sums it up. The only way any of the GL shields is lasting against Supes is if we just use their high end showings but outside of that, they are getting drop.How about this... name me a time Kyle or Hal has actually went up against and defeated someone in Supes tier outside of exploting weaknesses or BFR.
In his tier?
Sinestro.
Originally posted by carver9
And who has Alan, Kyle, or Hal taken out that is on Supes level (please don't use classic scans)?
Alan? Are you serious?
Solomon Grundy, for one. He's briefly held his own multiple times with Mordru who would beat Superman soundly. Not to mention a huge chunk of what Alan does is magic. If Alan goes KC on Superman with his constructed sword, it's gonna hurt. A lot.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Alan? Are you serious?Solomon Grundy, for one. He's briefly held his own multiple times with Mordru who would beat Superman soundly. Not to mention a huge chunk of what Alan does is magic. If Alan goes KC on Superman with his constructed sword, it's gonna hurt. A lot.
I was mainly talking about Hal and Kyle since Alan has recently got some kind of upgrade.