Does God Matter?

Started by WhiteEagle14 pages

I'm just saying I don't need a god to be happy. Whilst people who have a dependence on god do need 'his presence'.

The wind blows, you can't see it, but you know it exist cuz you can feel it. The same is about God, YOU can feel HIS presence, you may not be able to SEE him, but you can feel Him. He does answer your prayers, may not be the way YOU thk HE shld, but he does.
No I dont feel his presence, no he doesnt answer prayers.

FINTI: you are prolly right, YOU don't feel his presence, cuz you're not a christain, and he prolly don't answer YOUR prayers, cuz you prolly don't pray, being that you don't believe in him. But for those that do believe HE does do those things.

FINTI: you are prolly right, YOU don't feel his presence, cuz you're not a christain,
if that is so it is a weak god, who should god make his presence more clear for, those who really believe he is there or those who doesnt believe in him. Cause if god doesnt bother with those unfaithful whats the point in missioning the christian believes.

Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
I know i've said this before, but...i'm going to again. The wind blows, you can't see it, but you know it exist cuz you can feel it. The same is about God, YOU can feel HIS presence, you may not be able to SEE him, but you can feel Him. He does answer your prayers, may not be the way YOU thk HE shld, but he does.

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Originally posted by finti
if that is so it is a weak god, who should god make his presence more clear for, those who really believe he is there or those who doesnt believe in him. Cause if god doesnt bother with those unfaithful whats the point in missioning the christian believes.

The ultimate sacriface has already been made (how much more clearer could HE have gotton??), Jesus died on the cross for everyone, it's YOUR Choice, rather or not to accept Christ into your life, When you ask for forgiveness and ask Christ into your life, HE is there and he's listening to you, but you must accept him. He's always there, he's just a whisper away.

💃 thxx morningstar 😄

*yawn* sounds like church

Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
FINTI: you are prolly right, YOU don't feel his presence, cuz you're not a christain, and he prolly don't answer YOUR prayers, cuz you prolly don't pray, being that you don't believe in him. But for those that do believe HE does do those things.

I used to be Catholic Fiery Eyes. During that time I genuinely did believe in god and the bible. I attended church and prayed to god. Looking back on that now I can say in all honesty that it was all in my head. It's not that hard to convince yourself something exists. Especially when you've been brought up with it all your life. There is no sign outside the heads of the faithful that god exists or that we need a god to begin with.

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Originally posted by WhiteEagle
I used to be Catholic Fiery Eyes. During that time I genuinely did believe in god and the bible. I attended church and prayed to god. Looking back on that now I can say in all honesty that it was all in my head. It's not that hard to convince yourself something exists. Especially when you've been brought up with it all your life. There is no sign outside the heads of the faithful that god exists or that we need a god to begin with.

Now u make it sound like being a Christian is like being schizophrenic. 😛

They are some who wont disagree with that statement....

The ultimate sacriface has already been made (how much more clearer could HE have gotton??), Jesus died on the cross for everyone, it's YOUR Choice, rather or not to accept Christ into your life, When you ask for forgiveness and ask Christ into your life, HE is there and he's listening to you, but you must accept him. He's always there, he's just a whisper away.
A load of cultures had ultimate sacrifices too, they sacrifised humans to please their gods. Now this god didnt visit these cultures in spirit, the visit they got was by chrisitan countries that said either you believe our way or you die. Some choice they got. The chrisitan churches have expanded by using force, how proud this god of yours must be of the church his son founded. 1500 hundred years of using their power to enforce others to believe, only the muslims were strong enough to withstand and kick the churches ass.

Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
The ultimate sacriface has already been made (how much more clearer could HE have gotton??), Jesus died on the cross for everyone, it's YOUR Choice, rather or not to accept Christ into your life, When you ask for forgiveness and ask Christ into your life, HE is there and he's listening to you, but you must accept him. He's always there, he's just a whisper away.

😆 sorry cudnt help myself 😮

Originally posted by finti
The chrisitan churches have expanded by using force, how proud this god of yours must be of the church his son founded.

Jesus didnt start christianity. He was a jew. He never said that he was a god, he just claimed to be the son of god. And he never told anybody else to worship him. Which makes sense, since they (the jews) regarded god as the father, so that would clearly make all of them the children of god.
The problems you refferred to were not because of religion, but because of peoples intolerance towards other religions.

Jesus didnt start christianity. He was a jew. He never said that he was a god, he just claimed to be the son of god. And he never told anybody else to worship him. Which makes sense, since they (the jews) regarded god as the father, so that would clearly make all of them the children of god.
According to the New Testament Jesus was the founder of the chrisitan church "Blest are you, Simon son of John! No mere man has revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. I for my part declare to you, you are 'Rock,' and on this rock I will build my church, and the jaws of death shall not prevail against it."
The problems you refferred to were not because of religion, but because of peoples intolerance towards other religions
Well the religion have to take responsibility after all it is the religion in itself that makes people intolerant toward other religions. What can you expect when they have moral codes like "You shall not have other gods than me" If you take that literally you have to be intolerant towards other sets of beliefs

Originally posted by finti
According to the New Testament Jesus was the founder of the chrisitan church "Blest are you, Simon son of John! No mere man has revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. I for my part declare to you, you are 'Rock,' and on this rock I will build my church, and the jaws of death shall not prevail against it."

Well the religion have to take responsibility after all it is the religion in itself that makes people intolerant toward other religions. What can you expect when they have moral codes like "You shall not have other gods than me" If you take that literally you have to be intolerant towards other sets of beliefs

Legally Paul the Apostle was the founder. Most of the NT is about him, so he's the man you're looking for

It's thought to mean that God shall be your whole life, whilst things like money and women should not take up your attention. You can still have either, but you can only mold your life around God. Of course, if due to their lifestyle, those people are sending themselves to eternal torment, then getting them into the safe zone would be pretty life moulding too.

Besides, I am intolerant to inhumane religions like Islam, not because they're not Christian, but because they're not humane. Christ allows us to adapt to the world with his words, whilst things like Islam say that you must obey laws set out in heaven, like the dominance of men over women, which was quiet lenient in Muhammad’s time, but barbaric now. Humans must be able to adapt to modern times, and Christianity has proven to be the most adaptive of them all. We actually have had a split in the church over an aspect of kindness, in places like Africa.

and Christianity has proven to be the most adaptive of them all.
yet they are still stuck in the dark ages

Humans must be able to adapt to modern times,
thats why more and more become atheists.

Originally posted by finti
yet they are still stuck in the dark ages

thats why more and more become atheists.


No, the west was once all Christian, and still has an enormous helping of geniuses to bring them kicking and screaming into the century of computers, or whatever this one is called.

That's why Christianity has two billion converts, despites Sigmund Freud's predictions of it's death.

You ever notice that all of these religous threads always end up saying the same things over and over and over again? this is one of those really really obvious questions that someone needs to be slapped with a cat for asking. i mean, if God matters to you or if he doesnt, i would think that you owuld know, therefore you owuld have just answered your question.

That's why Christianity has two billion converts
that number is missgiving cause there aint 2 billions practising chrisitains. like in Scandinavia which are Lutheran protestants you are automatically a member of that church when you are born.
If your parents are of a diffrent religion or registered in a diffrent denomination than the Lutheran you avoid memebrship.
If the people are atheist they have to cancell teh mebership at the church offices.
Now most people here dont bother to cancell it cause it takes a lot of time.
So in Norway it is said that 89% is a member of the Lutheran church, when in fact is that less than 30% of these members are really practising chrisitans.
The number of 2 billions is just an estimate
There is a claim that there are more practising muslims in the world now than chrisitians

Which is technically true. The most populous nations in this day and age are Asia, India and to an extent the middle east, and apart from India these other two global areas are predominantly Islamic. In fact there has been a notable decline in the numbers of "practicing" Christians, and a relativly vast increase in Islam and Buddhism, and the various religions that exist in India.