Quicksilver is better than Flash? Because his power is more reasonable?
what genius said that quicksilver could beat flash?
i know marvel and dc copy each other, its hardly coincidence is it?gladiators got a great reputation and hes very powerful, and there are very few who can be a match for him i admit that, but i think apocalypse is that match, i dont think your giving apocalypse his due, and aoa, as with most alternate universes, doesnt really stick with continuity in any way.
Beyonder i can honestly see where u are coming from, but i just dont think your giving apocalypse enough credit.
and one more thing
supes> kallark
Quick Silver is better than Flash cause he's a hard head. Unlike Flash, life pisses him off at times cause everyone moves so slow to him. Plus most of his costumes and looks are better than Flash. Even though he isn't a fast as Flash, his conflict with his father Magneto makes for an interest background.
Afilliations: X-Factor, X-Men, etc.
Father: Magneto (leader of Acolytes & the Brotherhood, megalomaniac)
Sister: Scarlet Witch (Avengers member)
Wife: Crystal (royal Inhuman)
Daughter: Luna (mutant/inhuman hybrid)
Brother In Law: Black Bolt (king of the Inhuman race)
Sister In Law: Meddusa (queen of the Inhuman race)
Quick Silver's basically royalty as well. If his father ever takes over the world and he decides to join, he'll be royalty the second time around. Marvel characters are less powerful than their DC counterparts, but Marvel's have more dimension to them. Quick Silver ain't just another copy.
Wasn't comparing fighting skills. I've even admit that Flash is more powerful. The comparison was in response to Gladiator being a poor man's Superman. How he's just another copy. My argument is that he's not just a Superman copy as neither is Quick Silver, Namor, Thanos, and much more. Sure they're copies. But that doesn't pop into people's minds when they're brought up...they've evolved so much more.
As for Superman being better than Gladiator, he's not that powerful. Gladiator was based off of Pre-Crisis Superman, who's > post-Crisis. Superman beating people like Impierex, Brainic with Imperiex's powers, Darkseid, etc. is just DC's sick overly love of Superman. He shouldn't even be beating these people. Heat Vision > Omega Effect c'mon.
Sure they're copies. But that doesn't pop into people's minds when they're brought up...they've evolved so much more.
of course, i completely agree.
As for supes, theyve turned him into a right b!tch recently, but the strongest superman would beat gladiator i believe because no matter how hard gladiator hit him, supes would come back for more, which would eventually dishearten kallark, allowing supes to beat him. i believe both at their most powerful would be around equal.
Did any of you guys know that gladiator can actually enhance his strengths as it has been theorized that he covertly employs Shi’ar technology to amplify these powers at times. The technology also enables him to perform other feats: for example, when he uprooted the original Baxter Building, Shi’ar devices prevented the building from crumbling under its own weight. Observing Gladiator’s actions. Reed Richards of the Fantastic Four theorized that Gladiator’s powers were in part psionic, but the theory that Gladiator uses technological aids now appears to be the correct one.
This probably allows him to respectively compete with other class 100 individuals e.g Hulk,Juggernaut,Surfer and Thor.
Celestial tech>>>>>>> Shi'ar tech
Apoc's full capabilities have not been elucidated. As for his comic perf., I can say for sure some of the writers hate him( maybe cause he's ageless, and has such cool powers and tech, or who knows). Gladiator would be owned, if we provided decent writers( world's oldest and most powerful mutant enhanced with some of the top technology in the universe, hopefully some day a writer will come along and realize that this actually means.. .).
Originally posted by En Saba Nur
Celestial tech>>>>>>> Shi'ar techApoc's full capabilities have not been elucidated. As for his comic perf., I can say for sure some of the writers hate him( maybe cause he's ageless, and has such cool powers and tech, or who knows). Gladiator would be owned, if we provided decent writers( world's oldest and most powerful mutant enhanced with some of the top technology in the universe, hopefully some day a writer will come along and realize that this actually means.. .).
Yes he might be the oldest, but is FAR from being the most powerful mutant. Mutants like Franklin Richards, X-man, Proteus, Legion, Hyperstorm, Magneto ect are him superior. And the fact that he NEEDS the celestial technology just makes him weak. Anyone with such technology would be powerful.
no it doesnt hint at anything. thats why they do alternate realities. so they can do whatever they want. galactus -is- below celestials, and it is obvious, but in alternate realities he killed them.
punisher killed the whole universe in an alternate time line. does that hint that he can do it in this universe....... obviously not. thats the purpose of alternate realities. i knew you were talking about "age of apocalypse" as soon as you mentioned magneto. which is invalid. please stick to main stream marvel....... if you are going to compare.