Do you think some people have earned the right to die for their crimes?

Originally posted by Linkalicious
Societies have been using the death penalty for thousands of years and society as a whole has progressed. Who are all of you to say that the death penalty is wrong? The laws in the United States are more than fair and reasonable. It's not like you get the death penalty for j-walking...you get it for multiple murders. If you are responsible for the intrusion of several peoples human rights...then inturn your human rights should be intruded also.

I don't go around killing people because of things just like the death penalty. So IMO it servers its purpose.

And who are you to say capital punishment is right? And we can say whatever we damn please!

- About 30 to 60 prisoners are currently killed annually, most by lethal injection. About two out of three executions (65.6%) are conducted in five states: Texas, Virginia, Missouri, Florida and Oklahoma. Texas leads the other states in number of killings (256 killings; 34% of the national total). There were about 3,690 prisoners sentenced to death in 37 state death rows, and 31 being held by the U.S. government and military. 4 About 1.5% are women. Recent laws have expanded the number of crimes for which capital punishment can be applied. Other legislation has reduced some of the appeal mechanisms available to those on death row.

-About 90% of those executed could not afford a lawyer when they went to trial. They had to rely upon a court-appointed lawyer.

Doesnt that up there tell you anything?!?!?!?!?! What JUSTICE are you serving?!?!?!?!!?

typical milla...flying off the handle.

Please read the beginning of my arguement...society is advancing. Keeping killers behind bars serves no purpose. Reform only works on those who are willing to be reformed. Sickos like the Maryland Sniper who shot down 13 innocent people don't deserve to walk this earth.

But to stick to the point of this topic.....yes, SOME individuals do deserve to die for their crimes. But most certainly not ALL that are in prison.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
typical milla...flying off the handle.

Please read the beginning of my arguement...society is advancing. Keeping killers behind bars serves no purpose. Reform only works on those who are willing to be reformed. Sickos like the Maryland Sniper who shot down 13 innocent people don't deserve to walk this earth.

But to stick to the point of this topic.....yes, SOME individuals do deserve to die for their crimes. But most certainly not ALL that are in prison.

And you read the BALD letters in MY argument....

a court appointed attourney is still a legally acceptable alternative. They pass the bar just as any other lawyer does. An innocent person should have little difficulty proving their innocence. There are, of course, acceptions.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
a court appointed attourney is still a legally acceptable alternative. They pass the bar just as any other lawyer does. An innocent person should have little difficulty proving their innocence. There are, of course, acceptions.

Of course they do 🙄 of course they will fight for their client who will pay them nothing just as hard and with just as much effort as the lawyer who's client is going to pay vast amounts of money! 🙄

I pitty you, if you honestly believe that 🤨

1st you don't have to quote me...i know you're talking to me

2nd Generally speaking, (always exceptions), court appointed attorneys do their job because they have a passion for defending those who can't afford to pay for a Johnny Cockran or Mark Gerragos. Besides in the United States, a court appointed attorney is paid by the local government...so it's not like he's defending for free.

I pity you if you think money is the only reason someone would put up a proper defense for their client.

Originally posted by BackFire
Well, killing off someone, like the people described in the first post in this threa, who are obviously evil and don't care for any kind of morality, is the only way to ensure they will never hurt another human being again.

People like this, the most extreme case, serve no purpose to humanity, other then a negative purpose, just hurting, raping and destroying other human beings. We don't need people like that in the world.

I dont agree with the death penalty. But maybe you're right about your second paragraph. Very interestin BackFire.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
1st you don't have to quote me...i know you're talking to me

2nd Generally speaking, (always exceptions), court appointed attorneys do their job because they have a passion for defending those who can't afford to pay for a Johnny Cockran or Mark Gerragos. Besides in the United States, a court appointed attorney is paid by the local government...so it's not like he's defending for free.

I pity you if you think money is the only reason someone would put up a proper defense for their client.

Erm...what?!

''I pity you if you think money is the only reason someone would put up a proper defense for their client.''

😂 that statement is so laughable!!!!

Actually...the whole of this paragraph is!!! 😂

Please re-read what you wrote....sleepy and dont embarress yourself.

Originally posted by WindDancer
Okay I will go back and recheck it. What I'm saying is that people like judges, jurors, prosecutors study the case, and once they have found enough evidence the judge determines whether the criminal should be executed or not.

if those judges, prosecutors, and jurors are good christians then they should be able to forgive a murderer. Life in prison for them sounds good to me.

Only laughable in your eyes Lil B.

which doesn't say much...

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Of course they do 🙄 of course they will fight for their client who will pay them nothing just as hard and with just as much effort as the lawyer who's client is going to pay vast amounts of money! 🙄

I pitty you, if you honestly believe that 🤨

Local governments pay for a court appointed attorney to represent a client. So contrary to your statement....they aren't getting paid "nothing."

So basically what you are saying is....as an attorney who accepts a client's case, you are going to put up less effort for someone who isn't going to pay you as much?

THAT my dear....is the most laughable thing i've ever heard you say!!😆😂😆

Why accept the case if you weren't going to try your best to defend your client?!?!?!

I'd say stop before you embarass youself....but it's too late.

Are you imitating me? 🤨

You dont have a CLUE what you are talking about!

What exactly is your argument? 🤨 You have nowhere managed to disprove ANYTHING ive said...

And....you laughing at what exactly? Do you even know? Or are you only doing it because i did it? Did you just copy my reply and put you words in it!!

Me? Embarrass myself? haha! Go read arguments i put foward, then go read our own...

anyone want mittens to put over their claws?

I dont like mittens....hmmm........maybe! give it here.

The Governments of the world should watch Escape from New York.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
Local governments pay for a court appointed attorney to represent a client. So contrary to your statement....they aren't getting paid "nothing."

So basically what you are saying is....as an attorney who accepts a client's case, you are going to put up less effort for someone who isn't going to pay you as much?

THAT my dear....is the most laughable thing i've ever heard you say!!😆😂😆

Why accept the case if you weren't going to try your best to defend your client?!?!?!

I'd say stop before you embarass youself....but it's too late.

Please dont be so ignorant, its really not nice.

Do you think that higly skilled, professional lawers are going to be in que waiting to be hierd by government to defend someone?

''So basically what you are saying is....as an attorney who accepts a client's case, you are going to put up less effort for someone who isn't going to pay you as much? ''

I cant believe someone can be that ignorant so i am going to assume that you are just pretending to be so....

Law is not a flea market, mate. They dont bargen how much money they are going to pay for their services!!
My goodness!
The more money you can give, the better lawyer you can afford...you dont go to a lawyer and say...''look mate this is how much money i have'' It doesnt work like that!
You go to a lawyer, and he says THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL PAY ME..you either like it or you dont....if you dont have money, you move down the rank, and guess what 😱 the less skilled ones, ask for far less money, than the very skilled experianced ones!! 😱

Dont you dare laugh at my comment again, if you dont have anything valid to say...

You are embbarrasing yourself mate...no one else.

😐

Just because they aren't the absolute best lawyer available...doesn't mean they aren't capable.

At no point did i say that they bargain about amounts of service...where do you come up with this? flea market? christ...

Look at your last post...you attempt to rip me to shreds failed miserably...mate!

You keep putting words in my mouth and act like you are so smart about the subject. nothing you've said to me is news...it's a known fact!

The more money you can give, the better lawyer you can afford...you dont go to a lawyer and say...''look mate this is how much money i have'' It doesnt work like that!

Keep flying off the handle Mil...it's going to get you someone....one day.

🤨 Thats what you said!!

OMG! Anyway..moving on AWAY from whatever it is that you are talking about...

You have no argument to disprove my argument (about the CP) 🤨

Linkalicious> Societies have been using the death penalty for thousand of years. SO? They’ve also used slaves? Mistreated women? Used torture to get convictions.
I say the death-penalty is wrong. Who’re you to say it’s okay to kill people? And – in case you missed it – innocent people in the US have been executed, so it’s not as you say, that only people responsible for multiple murders get the sentence.

Is the only thing that keeps your from committing murder the fear of the death-penalty? Are you aware of how scary that sounds?

Read the post of Lil Bitchiness (My mental twin in the UK). So, in your opinion, if a poor black man, accused of a crime can’t afford a flashy smart lawyer, it’s his OWN fault that he gets the death-penalty?
Are you saying ALL lawyers do the job equally well?????

Are you aware of cases, where evidence has been supressed?

Are you aware of the innocents who were executed and later found to’ve NOT committed a crime???

(Goes and cries at Lil Bitchiness’ shoulder and mutters stuff that’s censored)

At least now I know why this barbaric practice is still used here and there in the world - like China etc....