Do you think some people have earned the right to die for their crimes?

If the population of a country vote to have the death penalty, then it is their fault if they get convicted themselves

In a Capitalist Society, the death penalty should be supported by all, simply because it is a cheaper option than imprisonment and counselling... and it lowers the incidence of reoffending...

🤨 How can people's lives be reduced to money? The justice system isn't perfect, and innocent people have been accused of being guilty before. How can you justify that?

Hey, I'm not a capitalist... my personal belief is that rapists and child molesters should take the place of dogs and rats etc in laboratories.. that way they can do something useful to make up for what they've done, and the test results will be far more relevant...

but only, of course, if it is proved that they are guiltyt... and despite what some do-gooders may say, often there is absolutely no doubt that they are...

ah...but your first suggestion is rather interesting. instead of killing them outright, they could become useful in that sense...i dont agree with it, but it does raise a few questions.

Originally posted by §pearhead
🤨 How can people's lives be reduced to money?

Simple, what else do you think influences a persons lifestyle. Homeless people have a crap life cos they have no money. Rich people have a lot of money and most of them have a good life.

If you have not money, then you can't afford food, so you can't afford to live.

No, but you're saying a capitalist economy system would benefit from the death penalty. While doubtlessly that is correct, that is also probably one of the least ethical things you can do.

But then again, why should we bother with mere morals? 🙄

Ethics... its a strange word, just like quality... when we say quality, we usually mean good quality, but there is also bad quality... in other words, everything is "quality..." Likewise, when we say something is not ethical, we mean that it does not sit well with what is the individual's or the societies favoured ethic... The Capitalist ethic seeks the greatest monetary gain for a certain section of the population by the exploitation of all available resources, including people... to a communist capitalism is very "unethical..." remember folks, Capitalism and Good are two totally seperate things... if it could be proved that the death penalty would increase the value of shares in the top 500 companies, you could guarantee we would have it reintroduced....

Originally posted by eleveninches
If the population of a country vote to have the death penalty, then it is their fault if they get convicted themselves

What about those who didn’t vote in favour of the death-penalty?

The Omega> Thanks! Im not quite your mental twin, you are super smart! I do look up to your intelligence and smartness though, so thanks...😮

Originally posted by big gay kirk
but only, of course, if it is proved that they are guiltyt... and despite what some do-gooders may say, often there is absolutely no doubt that they are...

Have you not read any of this thread? Have you not read few pages back at least...
That statement is very untrue! Are you trying to say that all people on death row are guilty? Nonsence!

Capital Punishment is inreversable, and mistakes have been made so many times before...
Also, isnt anyone bothered that CP is a murder in itself?

What would you say to a woman who has been beaten and abused by her husband for years and years, and one day she takes out gun and kills him in cold blood? If she is sentanced to death (and there are cases as such), you would argue that its right to send this woman to death?

*comforts The Omega*...some people choose not to see certain things i suppose...which is very sad ❌

Lil Bitchiness> Ah, nonsense. You're pretty smart yourself. I've just noticed our shared views on several topics around here, such as legalisation of drugs. And the fact, that you back up your arguments with links and references. It will be interesting the day we DISagree 😄

(Takes a handkechief from Lil Bitchiness) Maaan. You know what worries me the MOST? That I cannot shake the feeling, that some of the pro-death penalty people have never ever thouht it over, and simply echoes something they "heard" somewhere. And keeps repeating it, without really looking at the facts and evidence provided.

Big Gay Kirk> Okay, let me ask you ONE single question then: Are you aware of the fact, that people have been executed who were later, through DNA-testing, found to've been innocent of the crime?

Do you think some people have earned the right to die for their crimes

i agree with capital punishment fully you see once someone kills/rapes/molest for enjoyment they will not be able to stop like any fetish they will have to push the envolpe further and further i see no reason spending millions of dollers on keeping people like that alive its a waste of space,money,time,skin and air

I am wondering what will happen to the inoccent ones who are arrested in Guantanamo? It is promissed the death penalty for them and I believ may be some innocents there...And it is not permit acess to lawyers yet 😗

If there was a way to guarantee if people accused of these crimes were guilty, I wouldn't be against capital punishment--however, how many instances have there been when someone is released from jail because they were found innocent after DNA testing? These are people who walk the earth free now because we hadn't killed them. While I don't believe in two wrongs making a right, I also believe that there is only one way to stop people sometimes. Until the justice system can be perfect, however, I am fully against the death penalty.

Sometimes there is absolutely no doubt that a crime has been commited, and no doubt who commited it... Take Michael Ryan... there is absolutely no doubt that he ran amok around Hungerford with a rifle, and killed (if I remember rightly) 18 people... no DNA evidence needed... plus it is a fact that a person who was once a friend of mine raped a 13 year old girl... he even videoed himself doing it... and admitted it... Sometimes there is doubt, which is why I said that the death penalty or whatever should only apply when there is none... plus the argument about the abused woman doesn't have any bearing... in any humane society she would not be held to have commited murder but to have carried out a rightful and just execution... if it can be proved that the husband was abusive...

Lil bitchiness.... not everyone on death row is guilty... but neither are all of them innocent... and yes, dna evicdence can be faulty... which is why the concept of doubt must be taken into consideration... but SOMETIMES ther is no doubt...

Finti> But being found guilty doesn’t necessarily mean these people DID "it".

Corlindel> Urgh. Don’t get me started! That is a horrible attack on basic human rights. If these prisoners are guilty of something, let me see the EVIDENCE, and put them before a judge.

Big gay Dirk> So you do know that innocent people have been murdered by the system. The fact that this happens still doesn’t place you against the death-penalty?? Would you rather murder some innocents to “Get your man”, than admit the system is faulty, and hence the death-penalty should not be applied?

There is never any certainty in any case that no innocent people will be convicted, whether they are given the death penalty or 50 years in prison