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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth

This week we see evidence that my theory about "Did we see the losties killed in the flashbacks?" may have been right.

By that rationale, you mean that they were born to die on the island. So they'll just be born again and the loop will repeat itself?
😕

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
And furthering that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apep

Smokey! 😱

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth

Spoiler:
Sun confronts Richard asking if he was on the island 30 years ago and did he know Jin, Jack, Kate, Hurley..?

And he replies that yes he knew them then and he remembered them very well as he watched them all die.

yeah, but

Spoiler:
by the end of the season, they will be reunited (specially Sun and Jin), so that must mean they all travel to the past (those in the present/future) or the others in the past make it back to 2007, minus at least one character

So Richard is either lying, remembers the one that does die, or the past is changed

the characters that look like the losties in the Ben flashback episode (I think it's "the man behind the curtain"😉 couldn't posible be the losties, because by the time the purge happens, none of them could have possible stayed after what happened in last week episode...

Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
By that rationale, you mean that they were born to die on the island. So they'll just be born again and the loop will repeat itself?
😕

Yup.

Originally posted by S_D_J
Smokey! 😱

yeah, but

Spoiler:
by the end of the season, they will be reunited (specially Sun and Jin), so that must mean they all travel to the past (those in the present/future) or the others in the past make it back to 2007, minus at least one character

So Richard is either lying, remembers the one that does die, or the past is changed

the characters that look like the losties in the Ben flashback episode (I think it's "the man behind the curtain"😉 couldn't posible be the losties, because by the time the purge happens, none of them could have possible stayed after what happened in last week episode...

I see what you mean. One other possible outcome, as Richard doesnt seem the bullshitty type: That he assumes for some wrong reason that they are dead...?

Or maybe they reanimated Locke style...? 😛

I am the all knowing all powerfull John Locke. I command others and predict the future. I fear no man named Ben Linus and reveal my secrets only when it suits me.

Who the f&%k is Radzinskie to be giving orders to Chang. I thought Chang was the big bad voodoo daddy of the Dharma Initiative. It's no wonder they put Radzinskie in the Swan and left him there. He's a dick.

Damnit I my mom walked in and made me miss what happened during the conversation as they were marching to see Jacob.

Originally posted by saintsaucey
Damnit I my mom walked in and made me miss what happened during the conversation as they were marching to see Jacob.

Spoiler:
he wasn't going to talk to Jacob, he was going to kill Jacob.

fair ep tonight

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Locke said

Spoiler:
he wasn't going to talk to Jacob, he was going to kill Jacob.

I didnt expect that at all. What reason could he have to do that?

Some spoilers (kinda vague)

Originally from Ausiello Report
Question: Got any scoop on the Lost finale? --Carolyn
Ausiello: Funny, we posed that exact question to Damon Lindelof at the Hollywood premiere of Star Trek earlier this week. "All I will say is that it is time for the time travel craziness to end," he said. "And once it does end, something very, very surprising will happen in its wake. It is a little bit of a game-changer."

Question: Any spoilers about Lost's season finale? Please! --Sarah
Ausiello: Funny, we posed that exact question to Damon Lindelof Jorge Garcia at the Hollywood premiere of Star Trek earlier this week. "People will find out why [Hurley] got on the plane and how he came to get that guitar case in his hands," he said. "I've been wondering about that, too. I remember at one point asking a question about it and getting a, 'We don't know yet.' I had to ask once, 'How heavy is it? Is it just a guitar? Is it something else? How heavy is it supposed to be?' Sometimes I get an empty case to lug around in a scene and sometimes it has a guitar in it, but we don't actually know what's in it because that has not been [revealed] yet. It could be a case full of food or money or guns or papers or anything. So you see me get the case by the finale, but I don't know that we will find out what's in it. It was hard for me to play because at first I did not understand why Hurley would have ever changed his mind about going back to the island, and I'm sure fans are thinking the same thing. So it will be nice to be able to give them that information."

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Locke said

Spoiler:
he wasn't going to talk to Jacob, he was going to kill Jacob.

not really a spoiler if it's already aired on national broadcast television is it?

great, great episode last night. Next week's 2 hour finale looks to be godlike.

So it's revealed that Ben doesn't actually know Jack shit about Jacob, never seen him. I guess Ben's only contact with Jacob was the random encounters with his avatar in the cabin. Is that what everyone else got from that conversation? Hell, Ben didn't even appear to know there was a physical Jacob. When John told Alpert to take him to him, Ben replied "that's not how it works John"....and was then shocked when Alpert told John that was indeed how it worked.

so um....is it looking like the entire island is some ancient super structure to everybody else? The tunnel system runs beneath the temple........all the way beneath Dharmaville. Looking to be that the entire island is just an ancient super structure, covered by soil with a jungle growing out of it.

I guess we now know what Jacob meant in the cabin when his avatar told John, "help me". John's going to help him die. Wonder what that whole story is about, hope it gets touched on next week. I don't want to have to wait another year.

Wasn't last night supposed to be all about Richard Alpert. I never looked at the title of the episode on the guide but if it was called follow the leader then I had heard it was supposed to be Richard Alpert cyntric. And while we did get to see him in both time periods we didn't really learn a whole lot about him.

Because they are saving the Richard info probably for next season. Although I'm guessing, he's probably something like Locke.

As for Locke wanting to KILL Jacob, I have no idea what's going on there. Why would he want to kill him?

I hope his explanation aint "Because the island told me to".

Originally posted by Quincy
Because they are saving the Richard info probably for next season. Although I'm guessing, he's probably something like Locke.

As for Locke wanting to KILL Jacob, I have no idea what's going on there. Why would he want to kill him?

My thoughts on this are as follows.

Something in the past/future has happened to Jacob. He is basicly trapped somewhere between imaginary/real time and space (as shown by Faraday's diagram in his journal). Somehow he can manifest himself as an avatar, as shown when Ben took Locke to see him. He needs John to kill him to untrap him from this eternal hell. This is why he told John "help me" in the cabin. Perhaps this is why John is special. He's the only one who can. Jacob's not some god, just a regular ol' human being. He's taking all the Others with him to show them first hand the person they have been worshipping is just a man.

I'm thinking it's something along those lines........could be completely wrong though. I read somewhere that people thought Jacob was complete fiction made up by Richard to have the Others do his bidding. John's intention to "kill" Jacob is to take all the Others with him on the trek to find him to prove to them he does not exist, that they have been scammed. This way they can see for themselves. It would be "killing" the myth of Jacob. I don't see how that's possible since we've all already seen that Jacob does exist as we saw him drenched in darkness in the cabin and even heard his voice. I guess the people who are thinking this missed that episode, I'm thinking it was Cabin Fever.

Hell, perhaps it's a mixture of the two. Maybe Jacob's just a regular dude trapped between real/imaginary space and time that John must help out. By doing this in front of all the Others he is showing them Jacob is just a man, not a god and is killing the myth of Jacob while helping Jacob the man free himself.

either way, should be interesting. The only time we ever saw Jacob was in the cabin with Ben and John wasn't it? After that Christian became his representative full time.

for the dude thinking this week's episode was Richard centric, stop reading spoilers. If you do read them, don't believe them. If you didn't know the story of this week's episode before hand, what makes you think some random guy posting on the web from his computer (just like you are) knew? There are a few reliable sources for spoilers with official relationships to the show. I always take those to be 90% true in some sort of fashion......just like I knew Faraday was biting the dust. Reliable source. If you don't know the source of a rumor/spoiler........it's just some random guy who knows no more than you do.

My guess is that they are all going to "Flash" back right when the bomb explodes just in time to make it back to the present alive

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
I hope his explanation aint "Because the island told me to".

Actually a friend told me thats probably exactly why he is doing it.

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
I hope his explanation aint "Because the island told me to".

the island is like wtf?? who is this guy trying to take control of me...

hey john.. kill his ass

Originally posted by saintsaucey
Who the f&%k is Radzinskie to be giving orders to Chang. I thought Chang was the big bad voodoo daddy of the Dharma Initiative. It's no wonder they put Radzinskie in the Swan and left him there. He's a dick.

We know that Radsinsky is a science bod and high up, but he seems to be more militant security based whereas Chang (being the voodoo daddy that he is) seems to be more sciency than Radsinsky.

Yet he seems to defer to Radsinsky.

Whether or not thats related to their work positions or simply because Radsinsky is a dangerous loon swinging guns around right now, im not sure.

I heard confirmation on a podcast today, that I wasnt the only one to wonder whether the map that Sawyer draws is the basis for the blast door map or not.

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
I didnt expect that at all. What reason could he have to do that?

To free him...? (Me and Evil Dead are on the same page there.)