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I finally watched it yesterday. Great show... but I am still a little in the dark of how it all fits together. Looks like people here disagree. All in all my two cents would be that the story is made up of three historical timelines:

1. the flashbacks - what happened before the crash
2. After the crash - they all died and had to learn how to let go - the island
3. After letting go - they find new ways to meet up and move into eternity together (the flash forwards of series 6)

And then all that gets mingled a lot. The confusing bits are the nuke, the Dharma people and Widmore & Co... If the island is indeed purgatory, damn, what a violent place it is...

Anyway, I still have some figuring out to do here...

Originally posted by queeq
I finally watched it yesterday. Great show... but I am still a little in the dark of how it all fits together. Looks like people here disagree. All in all my two cents would be that the story is made up of three historical timelines:

1. the flashbacks - what happened before the crash
2. After the crash - they all died and had to learn how to let go - the island
3. After letting go - they find new ways to meet up and move into eternity together (the flash forwards of series 6)

And then all that gets mingled a lot. The confusing bits are the nuke, the Dharma people and Widmore & Co... If the island is indeed purgatory, damn, what a violent place it is...

Anyway, I still have some figuring out to do here...

Hmmm... yes, but is the island the purgatory or the flash sideways? They didn't know each other before the crash... they have these adventures together in their, what I think, purgatory. In these adventures they have to accept who they are, where they failed in life and let go. Once they do they pass on and then they have these alternate lives just to find each other again...

This is how it seems to be to me...

The island is NOT purgatory!

The Island is NOT purgatory

Well whatever...

So what do you think the island is then? Was it real or did they die at the crash. The end credits shots seemed to suggest they all died at the crash.

Originally posted by queeq
Well whatever...

So what do you think the island is then? Was it real or did they die at the crash. The end credits shots seemed to suggest they all died at the crash.

No, ABC already came out with a quote stating that the end credit shots had nothing to do with the ending. The island was entirely real, the alternative timeline however, was actually purgatory.

So when did they all die then?

They all died at different times as there was no time constraints in the flash-sideways. A few days can be years and years. For all we know Hugo and Ben could have watched over the island for hundreds of years and then died.

Christian: "Everyone dies sometime kiddo. Some of them before you and some long after you"
Jack: "Why are they all here now?"
Christian: "Well there is no now...here"

Also yeah the island is not purgatory. I'm shocked people are still confused by this, other boards are still talking about it.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I dont think that Smokey ever was the brother.
I think he only impersonated him after his death and that he was possibly unleashed when Jacob's brother swandived into light, or was the Mother all along and the Smoke monster starts at source again like the ghosts in Pacman when they get killed.

That might be one way of them doing this...
Maybe the dagger would have worked on Locke if Jack, had stabbed him.

Maybe the "its got to be you" refers to this.

Then the new Jacob'd have to make sure that no one lets him out again....

Still, it'll be probably be something totally different as these guys have laid some surprising shit down all the way to the end so far...

The original smoke monster was the "mother" (the one who raised Jacob and his brother). That's why the brother stabbed her "before she could speak."

how in the world did you pull that out of your ass?

there was no smoke monster ever even alluded to before the MIB. If Jacob's mom was a smoke monster, she wouldn't have had to kill all the humans in their sleep by burning their houses down. Lest we forget she was also the protector of the island. Wow. you guys make up some of the stupidest crap.

She didn't kill them in their sleep, as remember when she went to talk to the MIB in black at the wheel and it was day and there were people walking around.

Originally posted by -K-M-
They all died at different times as there was no time constraints in the flash-sideways. A few days can be years and years. For all we know Hugo and Ben could have watched over the island for hundreds of years and then died.

Christian: "Everyone dies sometime kiddo. Some of them before you and some long after you"
Jack: "Why are they all here now?"
Christian: "Well there is no now...here"

Also yeah the island is not purgatory. I'm shocked people are still confused by this, other boards are still talking about it.

It's no so strange. Because if the island events are all real then the finale doesn't explain anything about what the heck it is, who or what Smokey is, what's going on with the time jumps, what the point of the light and it's protection is. All it explains is what the side-way flashes are.

I mean, I can live with that, but that does kinda make the whole thing unsatisfactory. Because we've seen the weird stuff on the island for six years. We've only seen the side way flashes for one season.

And since the events are so peculiar, some kind of placement in an alternate reality would allow for a much better wrap up of this amazing series.

Originally posted by queeq
It's no so strange. Because if the island events are all real then the finale doesn't explain anything about what the heck it is, who or what Smokey is, what's going on with the time jumps, what the point of the light and it's protection is. All it explains is what the side-way flashes are.

I mean, I can live with that, but that does kinda make the whole thing unsatisfactory. Because we've seen the weird stuff on the island for six years. We've only seen the side way flashes for one season.

And since the events are so peculiar, some kind of placement in an alternate reality would allow for a much better wrap up of this amazing series.

It's a bitter sweet ending. We get great closure on the characters, but the entire island is still a mystery. I kind of like that though, the people didn't figure out the mystery, so we don't either. I would much rather have it like this, than some poppycock (yes, I said poppycock!) scientific explainations about the island.

Oh I agree wholeheartedly...

I just think that if the alternate timeline is just purgatory or summin... why do they all look the same age as they were on the island? Christian sure looked the age he had when he died... If the others aged, why don't we see them in that age...

But maybe I'm just nitpicking. ALthough it does leave room for multilple interpretations. Specifically concering the moment of their deaths.

Originally posted by queeq
Oh I agree wholeheartedly...

I just think that if the alternate timeline is just purgatory or summin... why do they all look the same age as they were on the island? Christian sure looked the age he had when he died... If the others aged, why don't we see them in that age...

But maybe I'm just nitpicking. ALthough it does leave room for multilple interpretations. Specifically concering the moment of their deaths.

In purgatory, there is no time, so theoretically you can look whatever age you want. Christian said that the time they spent together on the island is the most important time of their lives, so they look like they did during the time of the island.

Yeah, but that doesn't entirely work because everyone seems to be able to see Christian...and no one but Claire and Jack knew who he was...

But I guess that'd work though... But I can understand people's disappointment. I don't mind not knowing all the answers... but knowing what the heck that island was, whether it was even real, why babies couldn't be born etc... that would have been nice to know. But that's okay.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
how in the world did you pull that out of your ass?

there was no smoke monster ever even alluded to before the MIB. If Jacob's mom was a smoke monster, she wouldn't have had to kill all the humans in their sleep by burning their houses down. Lest we forget she was also the protector of the island. Wow. you guys make up some of the stupidest crap.

it was day time though. It's not too far fetched that she was both a protector and a monster. She had obvious characteristics of bipolar disorder..

Originally posted by Evil Dead
how in the world did you pull that out of your ass?

there was no smoke monster ever even alluded to before the MIB. If Jacob's mom was a smoke monster, she wouldn't have had to kill all the humans in their sleep by burning their houses down. Lest we forget she was also the protector of the island. Wow. you guys make up some of the stupidest crap.

Just not sure how an old decrepit woman could single-handedly take out a village in broad daylight.

Originally posted by queeq
Yeah, but that doesn't entirely work because everyone seems to be able to see Christian...and no one but Claire and Jack knew who he was...

But I guess that'd work though... But I can understand people's disappointment. I don't mind not knowing all the answers... but knowing what the heck that island was, whether it was even real, why babies couldn't be born etc... that would have been nice to know. But that's okay.

Christian was their sheppard, very appropriate name for him. I'm guessing that once they all realized they were dead and gathered at the church, that's when everyone else met him. Once hearing his name they could put 2 and 2 together and figure out who he was.