X men Vs Mordor

Started by Kontraz15 pages

For some reason... i think the moment quicksilver sees the ring he'll take it for himself... then mordor will win without the threat of sauron's defeat...

I suppose Colossus could get stuck. That would prove not too fun. But I guess he can always climb out? Or maybe even jump. It hasn't been shown before, I don't see why Colossus couldn't jump uber far. The Hulk does it and is super strong, so why can't the super strong Colossus do it, too?

Actually, Swanky, Colossus has no known limit as to how long he can stay in his transformed state. He does not fatigue when using it. It doesn't tire him at all. The longest he has been known to stay in metal form is FIVE whole days. And that's just cuz he wanted to. He can in theory stay in this state for as long as he wants. It doesn't even go away when he sleeps, for he must mentally will himself to transform back to normal. So he could really just kinda ride the lava flow for awhile until one of his fellow teammates figures out a way to find him. Xavier could find him and tell Jean where he is. She could fly down there, protected with her telekinesis and then lift both herself and him back to the surface.

Dizzle, you make a very good point there. Xavier could easily locate the whereabouts of the ring. And, not trying to start an argument with you, Kontraz, but I don't think Quicksilver would take it. I've been a huge fan of him as long as I can remember, he's my very favorite X-men character. He's really not a power-hungry kinda guy. He knows that he's not responsible to lead or to control a land or country of people. I think that he would return it quickly or destroy as quickly as he could, just making the X-men win the fight even faster. Xavier could tell him where the ring is and there where he must go to destroy it. Quicksilver would get it all done is less than a minute depending on where the ring is located.

This battle would truly be awesome. I would sell my family to see it happen in a massive comic book.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Or maybe even jump. It hasn't been shown before, I don't see why Colossus couldn't jump uber far. The Hulk does it and is super strong, so why can't the super strong Colossus do it, too?
I think Hulk has it patented. Every "strong guy" character should be able to do the same.

New Sun, God Like Cable, Rachel Summers? Are these guys disqualified?

Originally posted by Dizzle
No idea if a Wraith blade would affect Colossus or Juggernaut... They're not lightsaberian or anything, normal metal stops em, so I'm saying no.
They are magical though. And have some kind of magical infection power to them. Who's to say? I'm not going to vouch for new Juggernaut because all I know is he's weaker than old Juggernaut but Colossus might still be susceptible to the sword's magic.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Actually, Swanky, Colossus has no known limit as to how long he can stay in his transformed state.
Wasn't there a point when he was in his metal form so long that he started cracking and leaking energy of some kind?

Nope. Not to my knowledge at least. And I know Colosuss pretty freakin well.

He can in theory stay in this state for as long as he desires. Which would be quite beneficial, since he doesn't need to eat nor breath while transformed.

Originally posted by Sentry
New Sun, God Like Cable, Rachel Summers? Are these guys disqualified?

If Sauron gets the remaining Balrog and Smaug, you can have New Sun and Rachel Summers.
>_>

Anyways, Colossus is, if nothing else, going down from the Witch King. He blew open MITHRIL gates, organic steel just doesn't compare. Wolverine is dead as soon as a troll pick him up and twists his body in half and starts eating him.

Smaug is dead. Bard plucked a shaft in his breast.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Smaug is dead. Bard plucked a shaft in his breast.

Yeah yeah yeah, but if they can have almost every Xmen EVER, I don't see why we can't save Smaug and bring him over to the team.

Good thing Tom Bombadil wasn't on Sauron's side. He would smash them all with his delighful melodies.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Good thing Tom Bombadil wasn't on Sauron's side. He would smash them all with his delighful melodies.

His woman would seduce all the men.

I went and reread parts of LOTR trilogy that show the power of Mordor. Using the right X-men, they'll be able to reach Sauron. But that's it no further, and if one X-man so much as touches the ring their screwed, Mordor wins by default. The heart of man is weak and easily corrupted.

I like that Lord Ryugen good point... anyway Nataku maybe your right but almost every reference i have gone too it has said orcs are weakened by sunlight and thats what i got from reading the books too, but to each their own, no heat.

Just one question if they are agitated by sunlight doesnt that effect them in combat?

tom bombadil would have been a good one for sauron to have but he isn't so too bad.

with most the xmen having already dealt with mind control at one point or another i think the xmen could withstand the ring

Originally posted by nimbus006
I like that Lord Ryugen good point... anyway Nataku maybe your right but almost every reference i have gone too it has said orcs are weakened by sunlight and thats what i got from reading the books too, but to each their own, no heat.

Just one question if they are agitated by sunlight doesnt that effect them in combat?

It's the same as if someone was spraying you in the back of the head with a hose. It's not going to really hurt you or hinder you, its just going to make you uncomfortable and piss you off really badly.

As for the mind control, you're completely wrong. The ring will easily dominate any of the X-men, this isn't telepathy, it's your own greed magnified by thousands.

in the latest xmen arc they are dealing with that ugly creature that has pretty much already done that by bringing out the worst of the xmens nature.
wolverines gone crazy along with the rest of them and their fighting it off

Yes, now imagine alot of people trying to kill them at the same time.

As the Wraith's swords bounce off of steel swords, I'd say they'd do the same to Colossus. And give the dude more credit. Mithril's freaking strong, but being able to lift 100+ tons is quite a feat. The big Russian machine can hold his own with Er Murzor (i think that's it) for a while. And Juggernaut (even the current one) is above 100 tons... I think the Witch King, even breaking open mithril, can't be all that far above them, especially if he gets double teamed.

This whole thing hinges around if the X Men know about the ring... Cuz if Xavier was lookin for it, then they must. So he could get Quicksilver to run to the Shire, pick up a hobbit, bring him to the ring, have the hobbit take it, then run back to Mordor and chuck the ring in Mt. Doom.

It took Frodo a long time to get seduced by the ring, I'm pretty sure Quicksilver could make that trip pretty fast, at least fast enough that all of the X Men won't be dead yet...

And no one answered my "take out the ground under Barad Dur" theory yet....

I read in the Tolkien society that not only are they weakened but that their vision is also impaired as well, and that has to affect their combat skills... why would Sauron create a dark cloud over the battlefield if it didnt assist his soldiers in some way, and dont tell me simply for intimidation.

"As for the mind control, you're completely wrong. The ring will easily dominate any of the X-men, this isn't telepathy, it's your own greed magnified by thousands". by Nataku

Thats what i said how am i wrong... i agree 100%