Originally posted by Creshosk
Is he going to jump onto the optic blast?
He could. The guy rode the shockwave of an exploding submarine on that shield. If Cyke tries to shoot the ground under Cap's field, Cap could angle the shield downward, and literally ride it into the air. Now Steve is flying upwards, at the head of a dust cloud....
Cyclops: WTF?
*Cap tosses shield*
*Cyke is knocked out*
*Cap falls to the ground and breaks an arm*
Cap: Ow....
Because you are giving him a STEALTH advantage. . . You are making Havoc unaware of Wolverine's location at the start of the fight.You don't see a difference between putting them both in open level ground looking at each other and putting wolverine in an air duct and Havoc whereever. . .
OK, I used an extreme example. If they're fighting in the city, though, than what about traffic and pedestrians? Is Cyke going to discharge his blasts down a public avenue?
Originally posted by PiedmonFor like the fifth time. He can't see through solid objects.
He could. The guy rode the shockwave of an exploding submarine on that shield. If Cyke tries to shoot the ground under Cap's field, Cap could angle the shield downward, and literally ride it into the air. Now Steve is flying upwards, at the head of a dust cloud.....
Originally posted by Piedmon
He could. The guy rode the shockwave of an exploding submarine on that shield. If Cyke tries to shoot the ground under Cap's field, Cap could angle the shield downward, and literally ride it into the air. Now Steve is flying upwards, at the head of a dust cloud....Cyclops: WTF?
*Cap tosses shield*
*Cyke is knocked out*
*Cap falls to the ground and breaks an arm*
Cap: Ow....
OK, I used an extreme example. If they're fighting in the city, though, than what about traffic and pedestrians? Is Cyke going to discharge his blasts down a public avenue?
So cyclops suddenly can't dodege the shield again?
Man. This thread is rapidly increasing in pages.
Anyway. Piedmon. Com'on. Why do you keep thinking Cyclops will just CONTINUALLY SHOOT at Cap while he clearly sees his beams being blocked? God. Scott is not retarded.
He can shoot the ground (no matter the terrain), if they're inside, he can shoot the ceiling. Or a wall to reflect. Cyke has many more options here than Cap does.
If Cap throws his shield, not only will that be his stupidest feat to date, but it will be futile. Cyke will just blast it away. Then Blask Cap into oblivion.
Originally posted by MetalmanxActually he couldn't blast the blasted sheild. . .
Man. This thread is rapidly increasing in pages.Anyway. Piedmon. Com'on. Why do you keep thinking Cyclops will just CONTINUALLY SHOOT at Cap while he clearly sees his beams being blocked? God. Scott is not retarded.
He can shoot the ground (no matter the terrain), if they're inside, he can shoot the ceiling. Or a wall to reflect. Cyke has many more options here than Cap does.
If Cap throws his shield, not only will that be his stupidest feat to date, but it will be futile. Cyke will just blast it away. Then Blask Cap into oblivion.
He could dodge and fire while doing it.
Your series of drawings don't make sense. And that's not what I was saying anyway. Cap couldn't ride the flow of Cyclops's beam, it's going AWAY from Cyclops.
What I said was, Cap could ride the shockwave if Steve shoots the ground ahead of Cyclops. It takes him straight upwards. He flings the shield down. Cyke, out of instinct, might direct his gaze towards the shield, incidentally firing on it, but that would have no effect.
No, he can't dodge the shield. I think I read somewhere that its design lets it travel at supersonic speeds, but I won't use that. It doesn't have to, in any case. Cap is too skilled a marksman, he'd give Cyclops some lead, based on the orientation of Scott's weight, where it looks like he's ABOUT to turn..... because Cap is a skilled martial artist. Reading an opponent's moves is what he does, and although he usually employs it in melee engagements, he could do it in this scenario.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Man. This thread is rapidly increasing in pages.Anyway. Piedmon. Com'on. Why do you keep thinking Cyclops will just CONTINUALLY SHOOT at Cap while he clearly sees his beams being blocked? God. Scott is not retarded.
He can shoot the ground (no matter the terrain), if they're inside, he can shoot the ceiling. Or a wall to reflect. Cyke has many more options here than Cap does.
If Cap throws his shield, not only will that be his stupidest feat to date, but it will be futile. Cyke will just blast it away. Then Blask Cap into oblivion.
Wrong. Cyke can do nothing to alter the shield's trajectory, it wil absorb all impact. And it WILL NOT miss. Steve's fighting skill far outclasses Cyclops's.
Originally posted by PiedmonThe ground collapses, he loses balance and stumbles. Or Cap is secretly Spider-Man.
Your series of drawings don't make sense. And that's not what I was saying anyway. Cap couldn't ride the flow of Cyclops's beam, it's going AWAY from Cyclops.
What I said was, Cap could ride the shockwave if Steve shoots the ground ahead of Cyclops. It takes him straight upwards. He flings the shield down. Cyke, out of instinct, might direct his gaze towards the shield, incidentally firing on it, but that would have no effect.
Originally posted by PiedmonHe can't see throught the shield!
No, he can't dodge the shield. I think I read somewhere that its design lets it travel at supersonic speeds, but I won't use that. It doesn't have to, in any case. Cap is too skilled a marksman, he'd give Cyclops some lead, based on the orientation of Scott's weight, where it looks like he's ABOUT to turn..... because Cap is a skilled martial artist. Reading an opponent's moves is what he does, and although he usually employs it in melee engagements, he could do it in this scenario.
Originally posted by PiedmonHow is Steve going to fire something?
Your series of drawings don't make sense. And that's not what I was saying anyway. Cap couldn't ride the flow of Cyclops's beam, it's going AWAY from Cyclops.What I said was, Cap could ride the shockwave if Steve shoots the ground ahead of Cyclops.
Originally posted by PiedmonOH so scot ISS retarded. . . why not fire at Steve as soon as he starts angling the shiled down?
It takes him straight upwards. He flings the shield down. Cyke, out of instinct, might direct his gaze towards the shield, incidentally firing on it, but that would have no effect.
Originally posted by PiedmonAlright you've proved your bias. be on your way.
No, he can't dodge the shield.
Originally posted by EsteemedLeaderTo jump 20 someodd feet? yeah that's a flight move.
It did, look at panel three. Just didn't do it in panel four because...shut up, I was hurried.Does he need to fly to jump?
Originally posted by PiedmonBecause scott's a retard obviously. . .
Wrong. Cyke can do nothing to alter the shield's trajectory, it wil absorb all impact. And it WILL NOT miss. Steve's fighting skill far outclasses Cyclops's.