Captain America vs. Cyclops

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
It will have to go by him before it starts hitting him.

Originally posted by Piedmon
Cap has other senses besides his sight, you know. He'd hear that ZARK Cyclops's beam makes. Or if the beam is silent (which one of you actually suggested..... God that's reaching...) he would hear Cyke's footsteps.

Heres the thing Cyclops sucks. Captain America blocks the blast while getting closer to Cyclops then he unleashes his superior fighting skills on that weak X-Men.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
He can't see through the damn shield.

20 ft away from each other. Cap crouches. Cyke fires why? He doesn't have to do anything.

He can fire at the ground. Wait until Captain America peeks over. Run to the side and shoot Captain America.

When in the hell did Cyke get superspeed? Bodily speeking, Captain America is a lot faster. If Cyclops tries to play Wyatt Erp and goes for a quickdraw, Cap's gonna take him out in an eyeblink.

Originally posted by Creshosk
🤨 no it won't. . .

I never even sugested it was silent. . but hoe are you going to tell the difference between Cyclops looking at you and Cyclops looking at the ground?

There will be a big plume of dirt/powderized rock emanating from the impact. Steve doesn't have to elevate his head beyond the shield's rim to see THAT.

So you're saying he can't run five feet and shoot a blast that travels much faster than Cap A, at Cap A. Or he can't shoot a man when his head peeks over a shield.

Originally posted by Piedmon
When in the hell did Cyke get superspeed? Bodily speeking, Captain America is a lot faster. If Cyclops tries to play Wyatt Erp and goes for a quickdraw, Cap's gonna take him out in an eyeblink.

If Cap is running foreward he's not crouching to protect against all of the blast.

With the energy projection Cyclops has Cap is put on the defensive. . .

Originally posted by Piedmon
There will be a big plume of dirt/powderized rock emanating from the impact. Steve doesn't have to elevate his head beyond the shield's rim to see THAT.

😆 no he doesn't. . . you are following this train of thought very well.

Cyclops blasts the ground, and while Cap is blocking the shrapnel he leaves himself open.

If Cyke focuses his beam, yes Cap can dodge. He'll read Cyclops's movements and adjust for where the beam is going to shoot from next. THAT'S WHAT MARTIAL ARTISTS DO.

If Cap can charge a Nazi hilltop position straight-on, while evading fire from several heavy calibur machine guns, he can evade Cyclops.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Now you're reaching. . . the shield thrown does not move as fast as cyc's beam. . .

If Cap is running foreward he's not crouching to protect against all of the blast.

With the energy projection Cyclops has Cap is put on the defensive. . .

Originally posted by Creshosk
😆 no he doesn't. . . you are following this train of thought very well.

Cyclops blasts the ground, and while Cap is blocking the shrapnel he leaves himself open.

If the "shrapnel," is soft dirt, Cap doesn't need to do a damn thing.

If it's metal or concrete, than the terrain is weighted in Cyke's favor.

He'd notice this...

HAHAHA! Thanks! <3

Originally posted by Piedmon
If Cyke focuses his beam, yes Cap can dodge. He'll read Cyclops's movements and adjust for where the beam is going to shoot from next. THAT'S WHAT MARTIAL ARTISTS DO.

Originally posted by Piedmon
If Cap can charge a Nazi hilltop position straight-on, while evading fire from several heavy calibur machine guns, he can evade Cyclops.

Bullet = thin

Optic Beam = wide

Bullet = not ground destroying

Optic beam = ground destroying. . .

Originally posted by Piedmon
HAHAHA! Thanks! <3

You're welcome😊

Originally posted by Piedmon
If the "shrapnel," is soft dirt, Cap doesn't need to do a damn thing.

Originally posted by Piedmon
If it's metal or concrete, than the terrain is weighted in Cyke's favor.

What does that tell you?

Originally posted by Creshosk
because he can see through the shield?

Bullet = thin

Optic Beam = wide

Bullet = not ground destroying

Optic beam = ground destroying. . .

A hail of bullets from a machine gun isn't necissarily thin. Move the barrel in one direction and you've just created a wide stream of fire. Not ground destroying? I said HEAVY machine guns. Do you need a lesson in what a .35 caliber round can do?

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
He'd notice this...

Then after he's adjusted to the correct angle (and Cyclops IS a whiz at geometry) he'd be able to turn his head before cyclops noticed.

And he also wouldn't notice a difference with cyclops looking down to destroy the ground until it was too late.

Originally posted by Piedmon
A hail of bullets from a machine gun isn't necissarily thin. Move the barrel in one direction and you've just created a wide stream of fire. Not ground destroying? I said HEAVY machine guns. Do you need a lesson in what a .35 caliber round can do?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Except falling down the hole I guess. . .

Like he can't hop over it, sweep a leg around, or hell, just run through it? He's no klutz, a pothole isn't going to stop Cap's charge.

So if it's in a location that both of them normally fight, it's in cyclops's favor?

What does that tell you?

So if I say Wolverine could kill Havok by slipping through the air ducts of the Xavier institute and dropping out of the ceilings to surprise him, that isn't allowed, even though they both LIVE THERE?

Originally posted by Piedmon
Like he can't hop over it, sweep a leg around, or hell, just run through it? He's no klutz, a pothole isn't going to stop Cap's charge.

Originally posted by Piedmon
So if I say Wolverine could kill Havok by slipping through the air ducts of the Xavier institute and dropping out of the ceilings to surprise him, that isn't allowed, even though they both LIVE THERE?

You don't see a difference between putting them both in open level ground looking at each other and putting wolverine in an air duct and Havoc whereever. . .