Captain America vs. Cyclops

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Originally posted by Piedmon
Cyclops has to remove his visor or adjust its power settings.
Really now. Where exaclty do you derive this?

If he crouches behind the shield. Cyclops blasts the ground beneath him.

Originally posted by Piedmon
Cyclops has to remove his visor or adjust its power settings. That's easily time enough for Cap to get behind his shield.
Since when?

Originally posted by Piedmon
Cyclops's beams are solar powered. He can fire them at night or underground because his body STORES THE SOLAR ENERGY. If he runs out of those stores, he's reliant on the sun for power. Even if this fight takes place on an open field at full sunlight, he only has until next nightfall.
What the hell are you talking about? In full sunlight he wouldn't be using anything up as its being replenished while he's using it.

Originally posted by Piedmon
Although it's pretty likely Cap could throw his shield and knock Cyclops out before Scott's hand even reaches his temple.
Er, No, cause Cyclops can dodge while firing, throwing the sheild is a BAD idea. . .

Originally posted by Creshosk
Cyclops Blasts the ground infront of Cap and shrapnels up at him, and sweep his blast upward.

That's alot to block. . .

Cap angles his shield downward, the shield absorbs the shockwave, so Cap stays exactly where he is.

Originally posted by Piedmon
Cap angles his shield downward, the shield absorbs the shockwave, so Cap stays exactly where he is.
Again I ask why can Captain America see through a shield.

Uh... guys, this is basic stuff. Cyke's visor is adjustable. He can narrow it, to allow one thin beam, or pull it back/take it off entirely for the Big Bang.

Yes, in full sunlight it repleneshes him, but if he keeps shooting at full power he'll be using the energy as quickly as it's siphoned.

Cyclops's chances of dodging the shield are pretty much nil. Steve has hit much harder targets than a man with some acrobatics training.

Originally posted by Piedmon
Uh... guys, this is basic stuff. Cyke's visor is adjustable. He can narrow it, to allow one thin beam, or pull it back/take it off entirely for the Big Bang.
You said he had to take off the visor to adjust it. Why does he need to make adjustments to the visor?
Originally posted by Piedmon
Yes, in full sunlight it repleneshes him, but if he keeps shooting at full power he'll be using the energy as quickly as it's siphoned.
In which case he loses no stored energy.

No, I said adjust it for full blast, or if he's in a rush, rip it off.

Or. OR. OR!!!!

Originally posted by Piedmon
Uh... guys, this is basic stuff. Cyke's visor is adjustable. He can narrow it, to allow one thin beam, or pull it back/take it off entirely for the Big Bang.
he can fire different sized shots you know. not just those two.

Originally posted by Piedmon
Yes, in full sunlight it repleneshes him, but if he keeps shooting at full power he'll be using the energy as quickly as it's siphoned.
Prove it.

Originally posted by Piedmon
Cyclops's chances of dodging the shield are pretty much nil. Steve has hit much harder targets than a man with some acrobatics training.
And Cyclops has hit harder targets than some guy with a scrap of metal.

And he's dodged worse than scrap metal.

Originally posted by Piedmon
No, I said adjust it for full blast, or if he's in a rush, rip it off.

Or. OR. [B]OR!!!! [/B]

Why does he only have those two options? he can shoot the eye out of a dime. . .

Yes, it's modulatable to the finest degree. They explain this in GIANT SIZE X-MEN #1. Know what else? They also explain how Cyclops's energy blasts are SOLAR POWERED. You should try to learn things like that before you argue for this character.

Cap is far more experienced and a much more skilled combatant than Cyclops. That shield is no piece of scrap metal. In the proper hands, it's deadlier than any gun. Cyclops thinks he's leaping aside of it, until it suddenly turns in midair and clocks him on the chin.

Even under your assumption he's not losing any net energy.

Still waiting to hear why Cap has X-Ray vision.

Just went on the Marvel Directory and found something interesting....

The only limit to the eye-blast is the mental fatigue of focusing constantly. After about 15 minute of constant usage, the psionic field subsides and allows only a slight leakage of energy to pass through the aperture. Cyclops's metabolism will recover sufficiently for him to continue in about an additional 15 minutes.

Uh-hunh. So Cap can go turtle for about 15 minutes until Cyke's proverbial wad is blown, and then pretty much finish him off at will.

Originally posted by Piedmon
Yes, it's modulatable to the finest degree. They explain this in GIANT SIZE X-MEN #1. Know what else? They also explain how Cyclops's energy blasts are SOLAR POWERED. You should try to learn things like that before you argue for this character.
THAT is not in question, what's in question is his losing energy. . . While under sunlight. . .

Originally posted by Piedmon
Cap is far more experienced and a much more skilled combatant than Cyclops. That shield is no piece of scrap metal. In the proper hands, it's deadlier than any gun. Cyclops thinks he's leaping aside of it, until it suddenly turns in midair and clocks him on the chin.
It's not a boomerang, it has to ricochet off of something to change angle like that.

Oh, got offended by the "scrap metal" comment? Then don't belittle the opposing character by downplaying him like that.

By the time it would change direction to hit him the fight is over, Cap'n A at that point has no defense. . . Zakt. . .

Marvel Directory is ludicrously out of date. No mention of any such limitation. Besides you're still assuming Cyclops is an idiot. Beam can be focused like vision.

Originally posted by Piedmon
Just went on the Marvel Directory and found something interesting....

Uh-hunh. So Cap can go turtle for about 15 minutes until Cyke's proverbial wad is blown, and then pretty much finish him off at will.

Same site that claims wolverine can be killed due to blood loss, despite his losing massive amounts of blood before. . .

Same site that says that Galactus wieghs 18 tons. . .

Same site that needs to be updated. . . and that you can't always trust.

Uh... he can turn the shield?

Here's something else from Cyclops's biography on the Marvel Directory:

His broadest beam, about 90 feet across at a distance of 50 feet, has a force of about 10 pounds per square inch.His most powerful eye-blast is a beam 4 feet across which, at a distance of 50 feet, has a force of 500 pounds per square inch.

Interesting.... so that's not exactly 180 degrees, is it? Nor is it his most powerful beam. Cap could roll the shield while remaining crouched behind it, Temple-of-Doom style. He's not immobile, just playing defensive until Cyclops exhausts himself.

Uh did you pay no heed to the fact that Marvel Directory has outdated information.

"Turn the shield." Makes no sense whatsoever. Why is he turning it? He's apparently behind the shield completely how does he see what's going on on the other side.

So Cyclops has two options. He can go full-spray and waste his power. Or he can try and take a focused shot. But Cap's still a hard to hit target. Depending on the distance between them, it could be a matter of seconds until Cap's within arm's reach....

I can't read your posts while I'm writing my own, K? We're replying at the same time here.