Captain America vs. Cyclops

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Uh did you pay no heed to the fact that Marvel Directory has outdated information.

"Turn the shield." Makes no sense whatsoever. Why is he turning it? He's apparently behind the shield completely how does he see what's going on on the other side.

If Cyke tries to run around Cap's shield, altering the angle of his beam, Cap can turn the shield. How can Cap know Cyke is moving? Gee... you think he might notice when that HUGE RED RAY passing over his head starts to move right or left?

Originally posted by Piedmon
Uh... he can turn the shield?

Originally posted by Piedmon
If Cyke tries to run around Cap's shield, altering the angle of his beam, Cap can turn the shield. How can Cap know Cyke is moving? Gee... you think he might notice when that HUGE RED RAY passing over his head starts to move right or left?

Cap has a task ahead of him blocking the sheild, especially if Cyke turns the ground into shrapnel.

What the hell? He does it with his arm, which is holding the shield via two leather straps. It's not like Cyke's beam would hold the shield in place.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Or up and down?

Cap has a task ahead of him blocking the sheild, especially if Cyke turns the ground into shrapnel.

How does Cyke manage to fire downward at Cap, if we're assuming this battle is on a flat field?

You're talking about using the terrain for advantage! Don't you know anything about KMC, n00b? WE DON'T DO THAT HERE! [/sardonic]

So the shield does or doesn't absorb the force from the optic blast? If the former then Captain America will have absolutely no idea whether or not Cyclops is firing and where he is aiming at the shield. If the latter then Captain America gets knocked backwards by the blast.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
So the shield does or doesn't absorb the force from the optic blast? If the former then Captain America will have absolutely no idea whether or not Cyclops is firing and where he is aiming at the shield. If the latter then Captain America gets knocked backwards by the blast.

Yeah, he doesn't hear the 'VWAM VWAM VWAM'... 🙄

Vibranium absorbs sound.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
So the shield does or doesn't absorb the force from the optic blast? If the former then Captain America will have absolutely no idea whether or not Cyclops is firing and where he is aiming at the shield. If the latter then Captain America gets knocked backwards by the blast.

If Cyke fires at full power, the blast is much wider then the circumferance of Cap's shield. There would be runoff streaming past Steve in all directions.

If Cyke concentrates the beam, then Cap doesn't have to keep his entire profile behind the shield, and can freely observe Cyclops's maneuvres.

Cyclops is smart, so he'll do the latter. He's not going to blow all his power off in one useless barrage.

Vibranium absorbs sound.

It does more than that. It absorbs all impacts. That's why Black Panther wears it as armor. It's why Cap doesn't go flying when someone like The Hulk punches his shield.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Vibranium absorbs sound.

...retard. The sound doesn't originate from the shield does it? There's an entire stream of VWAM.

The blast is as wide as Cyclops focuses, the height and power of the beam is controlled by the visor.

Originally posted by EsteemedLeader
...retard. The sound doesn't originate from the shield does it? There's an entire stream of VWAM.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
So the shield does or doesn't absorb the force from the optic blast? If the former then Captain America will have absolutely no idea whether or not Cyclops is firing and where he is aiming at the shield. If the latter then Captain America gets knocked backwards by the blast.

OK. Look. Cyclops and Cap start off at twenty paces. Cyclops brings a hand to his visor, pulling the screen back for a wide blast. Cap drops to a knee, bringing his entire profile behind his shield.

ZARK! Cyke fires a huge beam that nearly consumes the entire field, except for a small section immediately behind Cap's shield. Concussive red energy is flying past Cap. The general flow of this brilliant ruby light starts to turn right. OK, Cap thinks, and angles the shield more leftwards. They can continue in this game of ring around the rosy for fifteen minutes, or however long. Then Cyclops runs out of juice. Cap stands up, waltzes over to Cyke, taps him gently on the nose, and Cyke falls onto his back beaten.

That's why Cyclops won't fire a wide beam.

What he does instead, as Steve immediately ducks behind the shield, is fire a thinner, concentrated blast. Cap observes that the air around him is not red. So he glances over the rim. Cyke is shooting at his shield with a beam about the width of Colossus's arm. Now Cap can pick his shield up a little and start working his way TOWARDS Cyclops, compensating for every shift in the angle of Cyke's shots.

That's nice. I can write scenarios weighted towards one character too.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Speculative. Even then all it does is tell him if the beam is firing, not where the beam is aimed.

The fact that the beam is hitting the shield is telling him it's being fired at him.

And seriously, where else would Cyclops be firing? The opposite direction? Yeah that makes sense.

Originally posted by Piedmon
OK. Look. Cyclops and Cap start off at twenty paces. Cyclops brings a hand to his visor, pulling the screen back for a wide blast. Cap drops to a knee, bringing his entire profile behind his shield.

ZARK! Cyke fires a huge beam that nearly consumes the entire field, except for a small section immediately behind Cap's shield. Concussive red energy is flying past Cap. The general flow of this brilliant ruby light starts to turn right. OK, Cap thinks, and angles the shield more leftwards. They can continue in this game of ring around the rosy for fifteen minutes, or however long. Then Cyclops runs out of juice. Cap stands up, waltzes over to Cyke, taps him gently on the nose, and Cyke falls onto his back beaten.

That's why Cyclops won't fire a wide beam.

What he does instead, as Steve immediately ducks behind the shield, is fire a thinner, concentrated blast. Cap observes that the air around him is not red. So he glances over the rim. Cyke is shooting at his shield with a beam about the width of Colossus's arm. Now Cap can pick his shield up a little and start working his way TOWARDS Cyclops, compensating for every shift in the angle of Cyke's shots.

If the shield is absorbing the force, then there is no way to know where on the shield a beam strikes. If it isn't Captain America get's knocked backwards.

Originally posted by Piedmon
OK. Look. Cyclops and Cap start off at twenty paces. Cyclops brings a hand to his visor, pulling the screen back for a wide blast. Cap drops to a knee, bringing his entire profile behind his shield.

Originally posted by Piedmon
ZARK! Cyke fires a huge beam that nearly consumes the entire field, except for a small section immediately behind Cap's shield. Concussive red energy is flying past Cap. The general flow of this brilliant ruby light starts to turn right.

I like Cyclops, btw. He's a cool character. But Cap is a living legend for a reason.