Originally posted by Blaxican
Wow, what a stupidass thing to say. More then half of the diolouge in the movies came directly from the book. And two thirds of the events came from the book. Jackson didn't do even half of the work that GL did.
Yeah, but you forget that he had to do something that Lucas didn't - he had to live up to the expectations of the readers and recreate a world so immensely detailed that it would retain its fascination in the movies. Now if that isn't a hell of a work... and I'd percieve it to be more difficult than to make up something completely freely.
And in my opinion he did it amazingly well 🙂
Originally posted by Draugwen
Yeah, but you forget that he had to do something that Lucas didn't - he had to live up to the expectations of the readers and recreate a world so immensely detailed that it would retain its fascination in the movies. Now if that isn't a hell of a work... and I'd percieve it to be more difficult than to make up something completely freely.
And in my opinion he did it amazingly well 🙂
True. But Lucas had to live up to hsi fans expectations when making the PT as well. So, yeah.
And besides a LOT of people didn't even know that teh Lotr movies were based off a book. All of my friends didn't know until I pointed that fact otu to them after we saw the first movie.
midichlorians instead of the mystical force, jar jar binx, a 1950s american diner, 'around the survivors a perimeter create", "noooooooooooooooooo", "if i'm beautiful its because i'm so in love", "you're breaking my heart", "yipeeee", "are you an angel?", "oops, sorry no annie i can't teach you to save the ones you love after all, but be a good lad and kill all the jedi kids"......
yeah...
star wars rocks.
I just debate LOTR vs SW-OT, the unaltered versions. I think overall LOTR is a better trilogy simply that ROTK is a better movie then ROTJ, and because they were filmed all at once, and not written on the fly like Lucas does with each SW movie, they flow much better.
But as individual movies, The Original SW and ESB are better then any LOTR movie. So in one sense, for replay value, I would take the OT, because you can watch them more as standalone movies, cause I believe the true power of LOTR is to watch them back to back to back, but who the hell has 12 hours of spare time!
Well, it's really what you're comparing. I think that Lord of the Rings has better large-scale battles, but Star Wars has, undoubtedly, better duels (let's face it, in LOTR, it's all just a bunch of humans running down monsters without either one blocking the opponent's blows). The older Star Wars movies have good story lines, but Lord of the Rings has much better acting and scripts than Star Wars.
Re: Lord of the Rings vs. Star Wars.
Originally posted by Johnlindsey289
There can be only one fantasy trilogy!Which is the better trilogy and who is better George Lucas or Peter Jackson?
No, there are quite frankly much more than simply one trilogy, differing in quality, originality and age; and no, trilogy isn't the right word. Try saga, as both franchises offer much more than simply there films .
In my opinion, they are both very different directors who make the same kind of films. George Lucas has great vision, and I great eye for certain visual aspects and themes, yet his script and innate ability to bore actors lets him down. Peter Jackson has a great eye for cinematography and visuals, a very good way of working with actors, a decent scripting ability (although lacks the vision of Lucas). What lets him down is that he isn't able to make a small, compact film from what I have seen.
I think this thread should be renamed:
SW-OOT vs LOTR?
Because the Special Editions & the PT are not even on par with LOTR, and I will say being a lifelong SW fan, that LOTR is a great trilogy, but my preference will always be SW simply because of Han, Luke, and Leia, and the greatest bad guy before the PT ruined him: Darth Vader. I have yet to find a fantasy trilogy with characters as good as the OT had.
To me this is a very tough comparison. Each deal with similar themes (good vs evil) and each has a core of complex characters on each side of the conflict. however, beyond the fact that one is sci-fi and the other is fantasy, there is a consistency issue that has to be delt with.
Star Wars is very uneven in tone. The original movie and ESB being two of the best movies ever made, then a dud in ROTJ... then a huge amount of elapsed time until the series of prequels came out... of which only Revenge of the Sith is really a good movie at all. There is a very good argument for the LOTR trilogy being better.
My point is that if Star Wars were made in sequence with 21st centry technology, I think that it would have easily been the better series. But, because of this descrepancy, it's gotto go to good old Frodo and his Fellowship.