why are you an atheist?

Natural proccesses? What natural process is it that would allow space, time and such to exist without being created?

very much like how religious faith allow god to allways have been there

It would not be a natural process though. The counter to religion is science, there isnt really anything else. Those are the only two options that I know of. Science is all about logic and religion is about having faith. It is illogical to believe in science because existence itself would not be possible according to science. That leaves them with quite a dilemma.

So the only other thing I could think of is that a person would need to have faith in the incomprehensible. If they are willing to have faith in that (the incromprehensible) then what is it that stops them from having faith in God?

then what is it that stops them from having faith in God?

the idea of a divine being creating stuff is too far fetched

So you are saying its not logical... Ok but neither is existence itself but you know what, its real. Or is it..............

Ok but neither is existence itself but you know what, its real. Or is it..............

Star Wars aint real either nor is Lord Of The Rings yet it has bunch of followers

I didnt mean because Religion had followers that it was real.

just making an example on how easy people will follow stuff

Science is not against faith just against some kinds of faith like christian belive in a person named god, or Polytheistic Religions

Science is not against faith just against some kinds of faith like christian belive in a person named god, or Polytheistic Religions

Of course science cant be against the concept of faith, that would go against what it takes to believe scientific theories. Beyond that what does science have to do with the notion of faith?

Christians believe in a being of omnipotent power.

which is the most stuopid thing I ever heard

You are entitled to your opinion but I disagree.

Some people question the idea of God having always existed. If he didnt though, then it wouldnt make sense.

If God didnt always exist, that would mean there would need to be a point of creation for him. If there was a point of creation for god, then that in itself would be agreeing that something can come from literally nothing and nothingness.

Obviously if one would subscribe to that then the notion of the universe, space and so on being created from literal nothingness (without God) would also be possible under such a belief.

God could not exist unless he had all power and was never created. For God to be possible, hed need to be ever existing.

Anything short of omnipotence requires a point of creation.

I disagree with that I mean I can kind of understand that you could believe in a God always existing (crazy butr possible) but a good omnipotent God is just ridicoulus.

but a good omnipotent God is just ridicoulus.

Atheists believing that the universe has always existed is no different than theists believing that God has always existed. If one is subject to efficient causation, so is the other.

I thought the big bang theory estimated that the universe was between 10 and 20 billion years old. Don't most Atheists believe in the big bang theory?

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
Don't most Atheists believe in the big bang theory?

Do all theists regardless of religion believe in the same creation story?

My bad...I thought you said "Atheists believe the universe has always existed." Didn't read carefully enough. And I said "most Atheists," not all. As far as I know most Atheists believe in big bang. I know the two aren't synonymous but still.. I think it's fair to say the majority of Atheists accept the theory of Evolution and the Theory of Big Bang.

Originally posted by finti
Star Wars aint real either nor is Lord Of The Rings yet it has bunch of followers

The bible was written by people.. who's to say they didn't just "make it up in their minds?"

Yes that's it I think over 20 people wrote the old testament in years maybe thousands of years apart oh and did you know that the new testament was written even longer years than that in between 50 years by numerous people?