Originally posted by jinzin
on a scale from one to ten how many times better was it than the last couple technicolor batman movies?
I still haven't seen Batman and Robin, although I am fully aware of how terrible it is(and because I am fully aware of how terrible it is.) Don't compare this movie to the last two, It's like comparing apples to rotten feces covered oranges.
Originally posted by StrawNilla
The only reason people stronger than Spidey don't have an edge over Batman is simply because of prep time i.e. the planning Batman can enlist as help in toppling such an enemy and not anything he can do with his hands. And as I've said, it would really be pointless to compare two such different fighting styles, one is composed of superhuman abilties that are simply not in Batman's ploy and the other comes from intense training that Spidey lacks. And to name one style as superior would only cause a ruckus, because many believe that experience with training topples something so unorthodox while history has shown that through Spidey enlisting near all his superhuman abilties to a certain degree as part of his fighting style he has topped enemies many times more powerful than he, and realistically at that.And Spidey's superhuman strength to a 15 ton lifting force degree is not something you can leave at home neither figuratively and physically, strength like that or of any kind isn't something you can throw off to the side. A suit, however, is. And Batman is not one to waste his resources in a battle he isn't even allowed to prepare himself for, in fact, since this is the case, he'd most likely assume that a battle he doesn't have prep for would not have him being pitted up against someone as powerful as Supes.
And again, Batman is just not on a level high enough physically to adapt to Spidey's superhuman abilties, Spidey is just on a level physically that Bats cannot augment himself up to by will alone. Nor can he do if he applied himself. He cannot overcome Spidey physically, and physically, his attacks will be nigh-ineffective against someone with the degree of superhuman durabilty that Spidey has. Batman has never encountered a collaboration of superhuman abilties that Spidey has in his ploy, and he cannot anticipate it before hand. In short: in a non-prep fight, Bats is overwhelmed if the two fight in hth combat.
So the car will explode if Spidey tries and lifts it? 😕 Even if this is so, all he has to do is flip it instead, a notion that will maybe take half the time of trying to throw it. And even if Spidey goes against the notion of trying to flip it, the spider sense should warn him of the car if it's about to explode before he attempts anything brash. And who says Batman will clear the explosion radius if Spidey tosses it and he ejects? Especially if, as you've said, it's exploding while Batman is inside (seriously, it's as if you said Bats will have the Batmobile explode once Spidey can get close enough to throw it, before Batman has the chance to eject.)
Batman is not on the level of Wonder Woman, Superman, Martian, etc etc..
I think spending all his time with the powerhouses has given him some experience in dealing with physically adept superheroes like Spider-Man so I'll doubt he'll be overwhelmed.
"Batman has never encountered a collaboration of superhuman abilties that Spidey has in his ploy"
and I doubt Peter Parker has ever encountered the collaboration of a hotshot that manages to stump 99% of his opponents with ingenious traps or tactical acuteness or semantics. Batman has quite a reputation doesn't he? Otherwise the writers wouldn't have had him beat Scorpion in the crossovers, take out Bullseye with one punch, and face Venom for a short period who didn't scar Bats one bit. I'm going ahead of myself but acknoweledge that Batman has a huge probability of winning this fight with his sheer complexity.
Originally posted by jinzin
technicolored oranges.....was the action good though....was batman actually able to fight this time?...or can't you tell me that either?
See, now your drawing out information from me, but you asked for it so...
Yeah Batman could fight, very well too, unfortunetly it was mostly due to camera tricks. Bale failed for me in this aspect. They should have picked a far more physical actor.