Originally posted by StrawNilla
You're underestimating the advancements given to Spidey through a "superior to a normal guy's" physiology. DD putting Spidey down with a couple of punches, whether or not Spidey had his composure, is crap. Period. I don't have to acknowledge an example such as that, because it's logically invalid. You'd believe a guy that, at most, bench presses 800 lbs putting down a guy that currently lifts in the class 15 (tons) department before you'd believe Spidey's other confirmed superhuman abilties collaborating to create the most unorthodx and unique fighting style ever seen before in Marvel or DC......even when it's been documented as proof of confirmation? You know all of Spidey's abilties right? Do you not know Spidey's physical capacity from a logical standpoint? On any given day, from DD's best to worst day, he would be manhandled by Spidey (a generous Spidey at that). You can capare feats, but until there's proof that DD is more than human to Spidey's caliber (or at all), it's just canon. Batman cannot adapt to a fighting style composed of abilities to a level of which he is most likely never to come up to, abilties in Spidey's ploy in abundance.
Dare Devil putting spiderman down is canon. Meaning it has happened in continuity and it is probably going to happen again in the future. taken from Strawnilla......You'd believe a guy that, at most, bench presses 800 lbs putting down a guy that currently lifts in the class 15 (tons)... No I will not but I will believe a person that bench presses 800 lbs and has mastered martial arts and knows where to hit someone to put a hurting because he studied from a martial art mystic. Batman has proven himself to be able to adapt to his opponents fighting style, and spidey's style is not going to be any different.
If the battle where to become one of brute physicality, seeing both Spidey and Bats take it to each other utilizing ALL of their abilties, Bats will be tossed, kicked, hit, and straddeled by his cape before he could call the nearest kryptonite manufacturer. Spidey has abilties that, when compared to Batman's own, greatly exceed them and others that Batman certainly won't expect in a battle he can't prepare for. As for Batman's gadgets, that's where Spidey's speed, agility, and reflexes coupled with pre-cog come into play. As long as Spidey fights smart (as he generally does), he should be more than fine evading Bats's projctiles.
Again batman is the better fighter, because he is able to adapt to his opponent's fighting style. And mastering all forms of combat is a plus. If the battle where to become physical and they are both giving it their all, I see batman would waiting for spiderman to attack. I see batman using alot of pressure point moves, and momentum type moves. Remember spidey's punches are not going to be that damaging because of batman's suit. If spiderman hope to win this bout quick and fast he should go for the jaw, and this is not going to be a walk in a park. However if this was an only physical battle match I see spiderman winning most of the fights. Because we are playing in spiderman's field, which is something batman does not like doing. As he always like people to play on his own field.
And as far as what would happen when Spidey flips the Batmobile, the matter is still rather simple. Spidey could flip it with ease before any projectiles are deployed. How much time do you think it would take for Bats to drive up to Spidey, and for Spidey to flip the car upon meeting? And even if the explosion still follows through, there's a good chance that if Spidey can just partly evade the explosion it wouldn't knock him out, as shown in one of your fellow Bat supporters' scans, Spidey took a small explosion head on and was a good bit uneffected (thanks to superhuman durability). Batman, on the other hand, doesn't have that option. Think about it, you said Bats would just press a button on one of his remotes and the Batmobile would explode....now, what of his method of escape? Btw, wouldn't Bats be too busy trying to escape the Batmobile while it's in mid-flip rather than trying to make it explode.
taken from Strawnilla....How much time do you think it would take for Bats to drive up to Spidey, and for Spidey to flip the car upon meeting?.... so now we are talking about a moving batman mobile heading towards spiderman. Just that you know the batmobile probably moves with excess over 200 mph and max out over 300 mph. Is spiderman going to stop it with is bare hands. I don't think so. Now if he his uses his webs, he has a good chance. Now we still have a stationary batmobile in which batman can still escape when spiderman comes to flip the car. First come the distraction... ejection sit... then comes the explosion. Spiderman is going to move but he is not going to be fast enough. Btw spiderman will never get the chance to flip the batmobile while batman is still inside.
And I'm not insinuating that Batman will sit back and watch Spidey do anything, what Spidey is physically capable of doing (and that's alot to superhuman extents, esp. in this fight) is what he will more than likely end up doing, esp. in a fight.
So you are saying that batman is not going to be a sitting duck. So you understand that batman is not going to sit back and what spiderman dig his hands under the batmobile and flip it.
And to answer your last question, as stated before, Spidey can flip the Batmobile in a very short amount of time, we're talking about Spidey performing a notion that takes maybe a second or so, and that time is set to how long it would take for the Batmobile to flip, rather than how long it would take Spidey to lift it up. And if (since in this case) the Batmobile is in mid-flip, Bats should be alot more worried about just ejecting from the Batmobile rather than making it explode. And as for who's clearing the most ground to escape the blast, Spidey (in Maximum Spider mode) has displayed speeds of a low-level speedster, given the time he has in your scenario, he'll clear alot more ground on his feet away from the blast than you are lead to believe.
You are still insinuating that batman is just going to sit there and watch spiderman dodge all his projectiles. And come close to the mobile to the point where he can flip or throw the car away. and batman is just going to be sitting there and watching him.
I gave spiderman reason of doubt that he is going to clear some ground but he is not going to be able to clear the blast radius.