Originally posted by MERCILOUS
How is it obvious?You don't have to respond to me, "mister hasn't responded to an arguement he specifically asked for 'cause he couldn't handle it" you have chosen to. You've stalked me around the forums trying to goad me into arguement, you've used attacks amongst other weak tactics to try to get my response. You obviously want to, so keep doing what you want.
You need to seriously get over yourself,man I've stalked you on no forums, I just log on to see the usual group of people stop at no ends to get some attention from me, and bash me on all sides while proving nothing.
On the contrary bud you don't have to respond to me. I won't feel bad since I am really getting more responses than anone on this comic forum period, I'm being very prolific If you haven't noticed, which brings me to my next poitn.
If you and the others see me as such a shitty debator because I throw my points back at you with you having no way around it, why bother with me, I'm not the only one posting on here you know, yet I get my threads ripped apart and misunderstood on a regular basis from the three same people, hater.
Originally posted by 8bitChris
"Killer Croc......Bane.....Hulk.....Clayface. Saw them, beat them. It's not just the strength"Care to post a list of all the people Spidey has beaten who were stronger than him? Oh that defeats this point entirely? I'm sorry.
iknow what you are going through 8 bit. no matter what you say , it gets denied and spidey's ponts just get thrown out the window.
I've already said that bats and spidey were very alike, except that bats hasthe gadgetry advantage, whiel spidey , has well everything else but intellingence.
Spidey's too popular, blah blag. People just hate on him and want to see him lose, and then characterslike bats and logan, win just because.
And as for deathstorke losing to spidey to popularity, it was widely agreed to by everyone, that he was the weakest link, not that I said so, and Spidey's faced sooooo much worse than the likes of these char, which is what many neglect, or dance around. They want to use the scrub spiderman , and not the badass one, but until they actually make a point, (which some have but not too often) then I will post all the nonsense i want, because putting fact and truth on here to people who dont want to see anything any other wayis old.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellGood post
iknow what you are going through 8 bit. no matter what you say , it gets denied and spidey's ponts just get thrown out the window.
I've already said that bats and spidey were very alike, except that bats hasthe gadgetry advantage, whiel spidey , has well everything else but intellingence.Spidey's too popular, blah blag. People just hate on him and want to see him lose, and then characterslike bats and logan, win just because.
And as for deathstorke losing to spidey to popularity, it was widely agreed to by everyone, that he was the weakest link, not that I said so, and Spidey's faced sooooo much worse than the likes of these char, which is what many neglect, or dance around. They want to use the scrub spiderman , and not the badass one, but until they actually make a point, (which some have but not too often) then I will post all the nonsense i want, because putting fact and truth on here to people who dont want to see anything any other wayis old.
thanks guys if you only knew what I went through in many threads, people want to pull me apart.
I guess a bunch of friends for a few enemies is a good tradeoff, but you guys have proved you can agree and respect even if you dont disagree,and recognize a good post even if you are rooting for the other guys. thanks.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
thanks guys if you only knew what I went through in many threads, people want to pull me apart.I guess a bunch of friends for a few enemies is a good tradeoff, but you guys have proved you can agree and respect even if you dont disagree,and recognize a good post even if you are rooting for the other guys. thanks.
I am a powerful ally young one character50
Originally posted by joesha28
Killer Croc......Bane.....Hulk.....Clayface. Saw them, beat them. It's not just the strength.
thank you I've explaineed this to him many times
You can have all the training you want,but to go against a fully beserk polar bear is just pointless, you will lose.
wolverine crap fights will get you a load of heat here, so be prepared, regardless, they may ignore you because you make sense, or they have nothing to say to you, who knows.
Its refeshing to hear a good point from a new voice around heree.
Originally posted by The MISTER
jinzin I see what you're saying here but all of these things can go both ways. Batman really does have a better chance than what I gave him credit for. But with that being said I really don't believe that he's capable of equaling spider-man who has held his own against every opponent that is within his power level 10 tonners to 75 tonners and everyone below that.Batman has also hung with characters on this level but he uses prep-time a lot more than Spider-man who uses it rarely and usually rely's solely on his physical abilities to persevere. In a no prep-time fight the advantages are truly Spider-man's.
Spider-man can't negate Batman's skill that's for sure but he has enough skill of his own to not get KOed by a typical attack even if it connects. The same can be said for Batman but if Spider-man isn't plagued with an over dramatic concern for Batman, even if Bat's isn't holding back that's not putting Spider-man in as dangerous a position as Batman.
Batman could attempt his touch of death but the black tarantula has never connected with his kick of death, if I'm not mistaken, and he stated before that he had trained to be his country's captain america.
So why would I think that Batman has an advantage on a guy who can hang with almost all of his enemies when he is definitely holding back?
If Spidey wanted to kill he has about 50% more techniques at his disposal than he usually has because of his strength and abilities.There aren't any humans that come close to his combination of agility, flexibility, durability, speed, and strength. Even the most powerful humans are miles behind him in raw power so why should I think for a moment that in a fight where neither character is given the benifit of the doubt, Batman has an advantage over Spidey?
He's fast and Spidey's faster.
He's tough and Spidey's tougher.
He's strong but weak when compared to Spider-man as far as all over strength goes. ( Spidey could palm his head and crush it like an egg but Bat's doesn't have an option like that ONE)
He's agile but Spidey has agility that equals or surpasses it.
He's trained and battled for experience and Spidey has battled enough to have an experience level that is not far below batman's.
Batman's mastered the use of his weapons and so has Spidey.
He has evaded many lethal attack's and Spidey has as well and has help (Spider-sense) predicting attacks and fooling attackers.This is all true as I have tried not to embellish any of these points, yet the points remain.
In a fight where neither one is given an advantage (a fight in a field or something like that) how does Batman win over FIFTY PERCENT of the time?
This is just my personal opinion, but even if Bats can win 49% of the fights like this he can in no way claim to be Spider-man's superior.
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I posted this earlier and nobody made any comments so I'm guessing it was missed.
The only thing that I can add that hasn't really been covered already is about how hard Spider-mans muscles can be. Since he has repeatedly shown his ability to tear and puncture steel with his bare hands and without breaking bones, his entire body is as solid as steel when he is tensed. Even his fingertips are hard enough to pinch a GUN BARREL as if it is clay.
Spider-man may not kill in the comics but that doesn't mean he can't and if you think he should refrain from trying to kill Batman while Batman just destroys him completely that's playing favorites.
Spider-man is tough enough to take blows from the hulk who CAN knock a mountain down completely. He has been spared "dramatically" but I'm playing by your rules now and just referencing comics as proof.
Bottom line is that Batmans best punch is dwarfed by some of the super punches that required no skill to be deadly and Spidey took them and continued to fight.
Spidermans fingers are like steel files and his grip is like a vise. He can do more damage than Batman because of this.
You continue to give Batman more and more weapons, vehicles, gadgets, and suits as if he's going to have everything that he OWNS on him regularly. Do you want Spidey to fight Batman in the Batcave? I think that you do but you want to call it fair and you can't have it both ways. Batman doesn't cheat, he wins. Spider-man does the same thing.
Ther are so many ways that Spidey can kill batman that I probably couldn't list them all..... but I'll try.
Spidey can crush batmans head between his feet, knees, hands, or legs.
Spidey can rake his suit into shreds, and make his failsafe useless.
Spidey can also rake off batmans flesh as if it were soft mud and break the bones underneath despite their toughness. His fingers are as tough as five blunt hooks, and backed by his strength ( we've all seen him tear through steel easily and destroy many costumes)
Spidey can squeeze any part of batmans body and cause a serious injury.
He can chop instead of punch and there's no rolling with that.
He can fold Batman in half with less effort than Bane.
He can web Batman and swing him like a bola with little effort, and use centrifugal force to immobilize him.
And he can do all this with what he REGULARLY carries on him. Spiderman fights with his bare hands and I have been accused of CHEATING by saying he can CHOP!
Some of Batman's supporters though, want to cheat by giving Batman a victory with any one of the weapons that he's used in the past, and not one BATMAN fan has tried to simplify this by saying, " I know Batman well enough to say he regularly CARRIES ______". To me this makes it seem as though most(not all 😎 ) of his supporters put more faith in the weapons than in the man.
Batman's cool and he would be a formidable foe for Spider-man even if Spidey's trying to kill him. There is just no way that he can claim to be Spider-man's superior.
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